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Traders Thread - Thursday 11th December (MT.)     

Crocodile - 10 Dec 2003 22:01

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U.S. stocks closed little changed Wednesday, recovering by the end of a choppy session in which investors continued to take profits. The Dow Jones closed down 1.56 at 9921.86, S&P down 1.13 and the Nasdaq down 3.67 all three had been much lower in the last hour of trading.

Water Utilities could rise after being permission to raise prices (United Utilities). Standard Chartered report at 8am. European car sales fall 1.5%

FTSE 100 reorganisation: IN British Airways & Hayes / Provident & Mitchells & Butler OUTMatalan <PROFIT WARNING> warned that its profit for the year to end February would fall well short of expectations after a slump in sales. The firm said its like-for-like sales tumbled seven percent in the 14 weeks to December 6. It said results for the year would depend on the critical Christmas trading period. "At this stage however, the board considers it unlikely that the shortfall in sales to date will be recovered in the remainder of the financial year. The board now expects that pre-tax profit for the year to 28th February 2004 will fall materially short of market expectations,"

MyTravel reported a pre-tax loss on ordinary activities for the year ended September 30 of 910.9 million pounds, from a 72.8 million pound loss the previous year. Analysts had been expecting a loss of about 600 million pounds.

Provident Financial which lends to people with poor credit history or low incomes, said it performed well and in line with its own expectations in the first 11 months of this year. United Utilities

Trinity Mirror publisher of the Daily Mirror said trading was in line with its expectations for the year, with weakness in advertising at its national newspapers offset by strength in regional titles. At its national titles, advertising revenues fell 5.7 percent in the period. Regional ad revenue climbed 3.9 percent.

Laird Group electronics said it expected its 2003 results before exceptional items and goodwill amortisation to be at the top end of market expectations.

Yule Catto & Co speciality chemicals company said its second-half results should meet forecasts. 

McAlpine said it had added 150 million pounds to its order book through contract wins.

Logica said trading in the second half of 2003 was in line with its expectations amid increasing confidence that key markets were stabilising. It expects IT services revenues in the second half to be similar to the first-half and anticipated margin in the business to improve to over eight percent from 6.5 percent in the first half.

Pearson publishing group said it had been chosen as the prime contractor for a seven-year, $200 million deal to develop and administer a students' exam programme.

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Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 10:30 - 13 of 31

That'll do me this morning, off to a good start.

Off to watch Tom Hougaard on the TA spot on Bloomberg
in 2 minutes and then start plastering my porch
ceiling.
See you all when the US opens.

Melnibone.

ThePlayboy - 11 Dec 2003 10:44 - 14 of 31

TH just stated 11900 dow in 6 months time! Must be the presidential cycle theory, also said ftse to 5500 by July and Dax to 4200!

Tradman - 11 Dec 2003 10:50 - 15 of 31

Can anyone tell me why BAY didn't go up when it entered the FTSE 100? Is the move up already built into the price?
Any thoughts appreciated.

bishopjeremy - 11 Dec 2003 10:51 - 16 of 31

didnt see TH's interview but I hope they're still giving him some stick about his call of a major correction in early October !

ThePlayboy - 11 Dec 2003 10:56 - 17 of 31

and May/June/July/Aug............

Hats off did call 10k when we were low 9k,s I think or even lower!

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 12:40 - 18 of 31

PIC got interesting a while ago - anyone got any ideas why?

Mole - 11 Dec 2003 12:46 - 19 of 31

Lot of buying in SKS this morning, tipped somewhere?

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 13:03 - 20 of 31

yes - SKS is mentioned in todays Shares Magazine as a likely takeover target by one of the major utilities

Mole - 11 Dec 2003 13:11 - 21 of 31

Cheers, Whatever they wrote must have gone down well with some relatively flush punters. Swapped my SKP for SKS this am, now watch the former rocket.

M.

stockbunny - 11 Dec 2003 13:13 - 22 of 31

Tradman - my instincts are that BAY has suffered unfairly from the
My Travel pantomine this morning same as MKS (no I am not amused at
the fall yesterday/today!) has suffered from the matalan one.
Little Woman - you must stick your head round the door in the tea-rooms
some time I'm getting out numbered in there (lol)

Tradman - 11 Dec 2003 13:59 - 23 of 31

stockbunny - Thanks for your comments. I'm sticking with BAY for a while. There's support at around 212 and if it drops below that them I'm out.

stockbunny - 11 Dec 2003 14:10 - 24 of 31

Tradman - BAY
I did the same a month or so ago - put a limit and sold out
once it was reached it (231p on the last up-run) although the
price rose again afterwards so didn't time it exactly right.
it's not a stable sector so hard to predict..
Good Luck!!

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 14:40 - 25 of 31

Afternoon, porch done,that's enough physical labour for 1 day. :-)

Don't seem to have missed much, did the FTSE actually move in
the last 4 hours or has it been comatose.

Can't understand why it's down with everything else looking
good.
Perhaps it will bounce this afternoon and stop out some Bears.

Melnibone.

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 14:50 - 26 of 31

I know what you mean, I'm curious about PIC. The MM are not supporting it at all - hence the price, but I think the ordinary investor is which is why its not dropped further. The only bit of news today is the notice of results - interims on the 12 Jan 04. Perhaps the MM are expecting the result are going to below expectations??????????

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 14:54 - 27 of 31

DOW looking perky. It might have another crack at 10,000
and drag the S@P/FTSE along for the ride.

Melnibone.

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 15:29 - 28 of 31

The dows cetainly taking the S&P along with it at the moment

little woman - 11 Dec 2003 15:53 - 29 of 31

PIC is starting to get some support - the big question is will it last?

Melnibone - 11 Dec 2003 16:10 - 30 of 31

The S@P seemed to bounce back from 1069.

With a bit of luck the US will drop back after
the FTSE close.

If the Asian markets follow it with a drop tonight
we may finally get the FTSE down to the bottom of
the trend channel tomorrow morning.

Anyway, nice profitable day and my porch ceiling
is ready for painting to boot! So no point in spoiling
it with a duff trade now.

Will just watch and work out tomorrow's plan of attack.

Melnibone.

Druid2 - 11 Dec 2003 19:29 - 31 of 31

Are the strikes in France affecting ETL's price ? Perhaps we will see a bit of a bounce when the strikes end ??!! OR is ETL another MT. ?
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