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We hate it when our friends become successful! (SGP)     

joehargan1 - 07 Jun 2004 08:32

Morrissey is back with a new album at no 1 in the album charts out on Sanctuary Records (SGP). This is a big deal for a pretty small company. Added to this the first half results out today should show improvements in first half sales - their niche strategy is working. Expectations of an upbeat trading statement with double digit growth bucking the trend in the music industry. Share should tick up today.

driver - 29 Jun 2005 20:22 - 13 of 81

This share is going to be worth buying very soon.

driver - 29 Jun 2005 20:28 - 14 of 81

I think this stock will recover (I do not hold at the moment)

The group explained that its growth strategy for its Recorded Product Division over the past two years has focused on acquisitions and signings of high profile established artists capable of generating significant sales.

driver - 04 Jul 2005 16:15 - 15 of 81

I knew I should have got some of these.

joehargan1 - 05 Jul 2005 11:52 - 16 of 81

Get on quick - will not be at these levels long!

Sequestor - 17 Jul 2005 20:36 - 17 of 81

run for cover all holders Clem has tipped it in Sunday Business, the kiss of death?

Oh no- not ANOTHER driver disaster too, oh dear,

driver - 23 Aug 2005 21:41 - 18 of 81

This is going to bounce big time from this sp.

partridge - 24 Aug 2005 17:09 - 19 of 81

Reasons? Might be a short term bounce, but gamblers only. SGP is classic example of a business where any investor can learn that cash is more important, when reading the balance sheet, than profit (which can be massaged in many ways, particularly in an acquisition hungry business like SGP). In years to 2001 - 2004 SGP showed pretax profit 7.7m, 11.26m, 10.79m and then loss 1.8m after (non cash) writedown of investments 11.4m. On the face of it, decently profitable. However, debt in 2002 was 11.6m, in 2003 it ballooned to 51.6m and 2004 to 73.8m. Latest trading statement suggests bank facilities now 120m and there are also 30m convertible loan notes. Debt imo has spiralled out of control and banks appear finally to have had enough. Further pointer with the benefit of hindsight is the sale by each of the two principal directors of 5.75m shares each at 75p towards the end of 2000. One of my guiding principles is to get out if directors sell large chunks (whatever the stated reason) and imo it works more often than not.

driver - 24 Aug 2005 17:24 - 20 of 81

partridge
Good post I think you are properly right I do not hold I sold at 46p

joehargan1 - 07 Sep 2005 10:08 - 21 of 81

A much stronger H2 was what the group promised and based on August sales/new releases there is some small reason for optimism...

Sanctuary have 3 of the Top 5 UK singles for the second time in a month with:

James Blunt (managed by Sanctuary Artist Management/ Twenty-First Artists) at No. 2, Baby Shambles (Rough Trade Records) at No.4 and Iron Maiden (Sanctuary Artist Management/ Live Agency/ Merchandising) at No.5
Additionally, 2Pac feat. Elton John (Twenty-First Artists) is currently at No.12, Jamiroquai (Sanctuary Artist Management - North America) at No.14 and Super Furry Animals (Ankst/ Sanctuary Artist Management) at No.28

This gives Sanctuary 6 out of the Top 30 singles.

James Blunt remains at No.1 on the album chart.

"Iron Maiden have had more hits than any other heavy metal band in chart history, with 16 of their singles making the Top 10, 33 reaching the Top 40, and 35 entering the Top 75 since their 1980 debut Running Free" - Music Week

joehargan1 - 16 Sep 2005 14:25 - 22 of 81

optimism being realised...

mackem - 21 Sep 2005 09:11 - 23 of 81

I can see this recovering in share price today and for the next week
or two.

You may ask how can i think that after today's news ?

Well to me it looks like the management have got all the worse case
scenario's out with this news, the shares had already priced in terrible
news and this mornings news was nothing worse than could have been
expected, there's potential for the shares to treble or more long term
once the management have trimmed and streamlined the business, sell
all the none core bits and bobs, cut costs etc etc, with the banks support
i think this morning share price of 7.5p was the bottom for SGP.

Seen this all before with Corus and Stagecoach as two examples, both their
shares have been rock bottom but with a little nursing they have returned to
health and returned a big financial reward to those who bought in at the bottom.

joehargan1 - 21 Sep 2005 15:28 - 24 of 81

THe Corus and Stagecoach analogies are spot on Mackem. This is surely at rock bottom now and Ibthink it will be highly rewarding to buy/hold for the next 6-12 months.

mackem - 21 Sep 2005 18:35 - 25 of 81

I'm sure you can all see for yourself that there was some massive
support for the stock today.
And a lot of bid support on the order books all day, it was never going
back below 8p bid, some early birds got 7.5p which was a good price
and at least one institution was buying this afternoon judging by the
large buys.
The sooner SGP start announcing disposals even if they are small the
better, get the money coming in to keep the banks happy and then
let the longer term picture take place, still risky but this is where the
money is made in the stock market.
If you put say a grand in every stock that looks to be in serious trouble
and left it alone you will find that you make a lot of money overall.
Remember Ashtead ?...up to it's eyeballs in debt and the shares hit 2p,
banks gave them another chance, some disposals and cost cutting and
now they are 140p, imagine that...one grand now worth 70 for holding
a few years, it does happen a lot you know, Corus was under 5p and
Stagecoach was 12p.

DYOR

mackem - 21 Sep 2005 18:47 - 26 of 81

A few things to add !

Look at this :

Executive Chairman, Andy Taylor, commented:

"I am well aware that Sanctuary has disappointed the market significantly this
year and, with hindsight, it is clear we grew too fast.
I am totally focused on repairing the short-term damage to what is fundamentally
a robust business. We will be restructuring our business and supporting our
artists throughout. The Board and I are determined to steer a company that has
an extremely strong roster of artists back to a profitable trading position and
back to sustainable long term growth."

Well if he really means this he should be buying a large chuck of stock to show
his commitment and in his words determination to put this company right, this
would be a show of confidence which is badly needed right now.

Must stress again it's a high risk punt, all or nothing stuff.

mackem - 22 Sep 2005 10:48 - 27 of 81

3 hours and still no AT trade.

Didnt expect it to be this slow this morning.

mackem - 22 Sep 2005 23:29 - 28 of 81

Picked up late in the day.

Dont be deceived by the trade data, there was a lot more buying
than selling again today, price was cut in the morning but was rising
steadily in the afternoon.

I would be expecting some holding news soon and maybe tomorrow
to account for the large trades from yesterday and today.

mackem - 26 Sep 2005 12:30 - 29 of 81

Article in Saturdays FT not helping SGP today.

joehargan1 - 06 Oct 2005 15:05 - 30 of 81

Whats happening today - high volume of buys going through inside last 30 mins?

700202 - 06 Oct 2005 16:01 - 31 of 81

joehargan1 can,t find news phoned my broker no one seems to know perhaps tipped in a share mag i,m holding 200k @8p.someone gives us a clue,perhaps they have found a buyer or maybe the volume is the shorters buying

joehargan1 - 06 Oct 2005 23:52 - 32 of 81

Agree 700202 - buyer is still most likely scenario. This has been dragged down by bad news story upon bad news...most of it speculation and opinion. It is the classic case of a small - medium size player trying to get into the big leagues too quickly and over extending themselves in the process. When the facts are reviewed they show that they are worth much much more than this on the assets alone and the financials have to look good to the industry big boys looking for a tuck-in acquisition. Don't bet the mortgage on it but a seriously good moderate risk - high return investment at these levels. I fondly recall buying into Corus at 6p...it's an omen.
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