mitzy
- 15 Sep 2008 11:16
Today they have fallen 22% to a new low of 223p ..are they another Marconi..?
The chart looks like one long suicide note.
cynic
- 18 Sep 2008 08:25
- 130 of 569
anyway, the current discount showing on HBOS price is typical or a bit more than that normally experienced in a t/o .... in this instance, i really do see little downside (at +/185) unless of course Lloyds comes under (irrational) attack
robertalexander
- 18 Sep 2008 08:29
- 131 of 569
Under the terms of the deal, which must be agreed by investors, HBOS shareholders will receive 0.83 Lloyds shares for every HBOS share.
don't know what that is a fraction but must be close to 4 for 5
Maths isn't my strong point 1st thing in the morning
Alex
(un?)fortunately i hold both
required field
- 18 Sep 2008 08:30
- 132 of 569
When the market turmoil is over (if ever), I think in a few months we should be looking at Lloyds Bank because they (like Cynic says) may have got themselves the bargain of the decade...perhaps their share price in the short term will suffer, but mid-term could be heading for something above 4 !.
mitzy
- 18 Sep 2008 08:31
- 133 of 569
Meantime LLOY is crashing..
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 08:32
- 134 of 569
Even at your calculation Ralex it should be trading at 2.05 + Well sod it I'm going in, if Barclays would let me trade !!
required field
- 18 Sep 2008 08:35
- 135 of 569
The sums involved are staggering !, with these takeovers !.
cynic
- 18 Sep 2008 08:37
- 136 of 569
Lloyds is down 7% from last night ..... "small earhquake; no one injured"
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 08:42
- 137 of 569
Cant understand Barclays either - Down graded last night by SP, same announcement that seemed to knacker Hbos - and there up - does anybody know what is actually going on! Who makes Prozac - they'll be worth a punt !
dealerdear
- 18 Sep 2008 08:43
- 138 of 569
I need an aspirin ..
cynic
- 18 Sep 2008 08:45
- 139 of 569
Pfizer + hundreds of fakes on internet!
mitzy
- 18 Sep 2008 08:48
- 140 of 569
Keep an eye on Lloyds could fall 20%.
cynic
- 18 Sep 2008 09:01
- 141 of 569
or even 30% or even go up by 20% ...... sorry mitzy, but not one of your more perceptive comments!
scotinvestor
- 18 Sep 2008 09:04
- 142 of 569
hornby should be hung, drawn and quartered
scotinvestor
- 18 Sep 2008 09:05
- 143 of 569
english tw?ts screwing up one of the oldest of worlds financial institutions in the space of a couple of years......unbelievable
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 09:09
- 144 of 569
What if they both fall ?? Who picks up the pieces then -
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 09:14
- 145 of 569
Does anyone actually know exactly how the deal works yet ? Because every which way I look at it , it doesn't stack up.
scotinvestor
- 18 Sep 2008 09:17
- 146 of 569
hbos board should be in jail for life
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 09:22
- 147 of 569
Guess the shareholders aren't happy then !
Strawbs
- 18 Sep 2008 09:33
- 148 of 569
OK. For those struggling with the maths, here's how I work out the price.
HBOS - Closed yesterday at 147.1
LLOY - Closed yesterday at 279.75
You have 100 HBOS shares valued at 1,471.00. Lloyds gives you .83 shares for each one you own. You now have 83 Lloyds shares valued at 2,321.925. If you divide 2,321.925 by 100 (your original HBOS holding), you get 2.32.
As I understand it, if the Lloyds price now goes up then you're doing better on the deal, if it tanks then you're doing worse on the deal.
Hope that helps.
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
Dil
- 18 Sep 2008 09:35
- 149 of 569
And you wonder why they won't give the scots more power to run themselves !
Whole bloody country would be bust in a month.