This board has been a little to quiet for while.

Is it time that Bush and Blair who is a close friend and confidant of Bush were tried for War Crimes?

Do you think the use by the American Administrations of renditions are War Crimes and committed with full knowledge of American and British leaders ie. Blair and Bush and they are ultimately responsible?

Also in the aftermath of the illegal invasion of Iraq are should their action seen to be as the provocation for the rising toll of British, American and Iraqi deaths.

As a result of the military intervention in Iraq do you think you are safer in Britain to-day?

Do you think one should expect government leaders and ministers who have been responsible for massive foreseeable casualties should visit the hospitals to meet the casualties they have produced directly or indirectly by their actions?

This is a form of a punch.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8411326.stm

Sir Ken MacDonald

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Ex-DPP: Tony Blair's attitude to Iraq war 'a disgrace'
Tony Blair
Mr Blair said the Iraq invasion would have been justified even without WMDs

The ex-director of public prosecutions has accused Tony Blair of "sycophancy" towards President Bush.

Sir Ken MacDonald called the 2003 Iraq war a "foreign policy disgrace of epic proportions".

He said the former prime minister had used "alarming subterfuge" to mislead the British people into the conflict.

Mr Blair told the BBC at the weekend that it would have been right to invade even if it had not been thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

Referring to Mr Blair's interview with Fern Britton, Sir Ken wrote in The Times: "This was a foreign policy disgrace of epic proportions and playing footsie on Sunday morning television does nothing to repair the damage."

He said Washington had "turned his head and he couldn't resist the stage or the glamour that it gave him".

'Narcissist's defence'

Sir Ken added: "It is now very difficult to avoid the conclusion that Tony Blair engaged in an alarming subterfuge with his partner George Bush and went on to mislead and cajole the British people into a deadly war they had made perfectly clear they didn't want, and on a basis that it's increasingly hard to believe even he found truly credible."

Sir Ken, who works at the same barristers' chambers as Mr Blair's wife Cherie, said: "Since those sorry days we have frequently heard him repeating the self-regarding mantra that 'hand on heart, I only did what I thought was right'.

"But this is a narcissist's defence and self-belief is no answer to misjudgement: it is certainly no answer to death."

The belief that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction was the key justification for the UK joining the US-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

No such weapons were found after the invasion and key bits of intelligence put forward by then Joint Intelligence Committee head Sir John Scarlett in the infamous 2002 weapons dossier later discredited.

'Different arguments'

Speaking on Fern Meets... on BBC One on Sunday, Mr Blair was asked whether the idea of Saddam having WMDs had "tilted" him in favour of war.

He replied that it was "the notion of him as a threat to the region of which the development of WMDs was obviously one" aspect.

Asked whether he would have invaded Iraq without the WMDs dossier, he said: "I would still have thought it right to remove him.

"I mean obviously you would have had to use and deploy different arguments, about the nature of the threat."

Mr Blair is due to give evidence in the New Year to the Chilcot inquiry into the war.

Sir Ken said the questioning so far by the panel had been "unchallenging", adding: "If Chilcot fails to reveal the truth without fear in this Middle Eastern story of violence and destruction, the inquiry will be held in deserved and withering contempt."

Berlasconi,

I don't think the "guy" who threw the statue is "mentally ill".

I think the Italians who voted for the "Mafioso" are!

Et tu Brutus Blair will be next for the same treatment unless of course he develops Alzaemers.

He is already suffering from "delusions of Grandeur".

Can't remember what they are symptoms of!

FredI agree there is nothing wrong with the guy that threw the statue at Berlusconithe shot was superb.two teeth and a broken nose.I think he should have got bullies special prize.

Reward offered for Blairs arrest..



http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100127/tuk-website-offers-reward-for-tony-blair-45dbed5.html

Sweat it out Tony.

Mitzy,

the image sums up a "madman", who doesn't realise the problems he has helped to create in the Middle East problems with some of the "West".

Interesting, Blair didn't deliberately "deceive the public".

Umh, he deceived himself!!!! He saw and still sees himself as the "New Messiah"!!!

He is a demi god in the form of Nero..

What is interesting for me, is that Blair seems to have made a decision based on his "belief in himself", and the only "judgement" he used was to try to distort any "information" which did not coincide with his initial position.

I think he is as deluded to-day as he was then.

Can't remember, but who provided Saddam with weapons and poisonous gasses when Iraq was at war with Iran?

The Iraq inquiry team questioning Blair so far have only fallen short in offering him canapthis has all been scriptedand both sides will obviously be launching togethera far cry from Geithner interrogation..this afternoon offerings will include martinis and classic cocktailswith Cuban cigars and special mojitosall very English

The friendship of Blair and Bush was quite worrying as there were historical links between Osama bin Laden's business interests and those of the Bush familythe Bin Ladden family money connections between Bush Republicans and Osama bin Laden go way back and the political and economic connections have remained unbroken for 20 years"We should revisit the history of BCCI a bank used by the legendary Palestinian terrorist known as Abu Nidal BCCI was closely tied to American and Pakistan intelligence Its clients included the Afghan rebels and the brother of Osama bin Laden Salem Salem bin Laden named Houston investment broker James R. Bath as his business representative in Texas right after George W. Bush father became CIA director in 1976. By 1977... Bath invested $50,000 into junior first business Arbusto Energy while Osama bin Laden would soon become a CIA asset. George W. Bush FBI director Robert Mueller was part of the Justice Department questionable investigation of BCCI. (On BCCI, the bin Ladens and the Bushes see the books (The Outlaw Bank.. A Full Service Bank and Fortunate Son) Further details of the business and financial relationships between the Bush and bin Laden family are found in Peter Brewton's 1992 book The Mafia CIA and George Bush BCCI incidentally was founded by a Pakistani Do we believe the threat of Saddam was greater than that of Osama bin Laden?was the attack on Saddam deflecting the Bin Ladden problem?why did Blair get involved?why has Bin Ladden never been caught?I wonder?

How hard is it to find Bin Laden?.his Family are Builders/Developersjust satellite the Afghanistan terrainand look out for the cave with a swimming pool and BBQ terrace.simples

Bin Laden is the monster in the forest. Nobody wants to find him. He may have too many stories to tell.

Mind, in all honesty, I would think him dead. Could be wrong, but I remember meeting a German in 2000 who thought Hitler was still alive at that time.

I have a feeling that Blair was deluded and saw himself as the "Terminator" in 2000.

Lets hope he wont be back!

He is a rubbish polito.

You have to feel some sympathy for Blair as he doesn't realise he needs psychiatric help, after possibly having had a stroke or heart attack, just look at the right side of his face.