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Baza,
I'm still positive on SEO, and would not dream of saying that buying now is a bad move. Like you, I think the next RNS re trials,Asda, Wm, FDA or the like will be a blockbuster, but I was wondering what it is that makes Crazy so certain, right now.
Alan

Baza, I have a hunch (not quasimodo style like ii stooped over his pc screen) too, that we will have a trading update or some other news tomorrow(monthend) or thursday (start of December)

Erik the Red

Would be good to get an update - good or bad - so that we can re assess our riskd. When I spoke to SEO earlier in the week, they confirmed that a close statement was due out soon - so that could tie in with later this week - then again - soon could mean another 2 or 3 weeks.

Baza

Baza, in that case I will stick with my prediction

The update should give us plenty to discuss at least, they were without doubt holding back the air pillows news for the update, they should really have announced such a big deal, so the update must be very soon, maybe they are just waiting to seal another deal before releasing the update

Erik the Red

Is that ii or some other big shorter going for it, with sells of 567 then 345 then 2 x 223 shares ?

Maybe its code ?

567 = hello (?)
345 = yes I am here (?)
223 = news at 2:23 (?)
223 = definately at 2:23 (?)

Only 20 minutes to find out if I broke the code

Eric the Red

Ok, not the right code

Who would sell small amounts like that in sequence ?

I still think it's code

Erik the Red

Be easier to pick up the phone, wouldn't it, or do you always communicate by sharedealing?

Your all wrong its baza topping up.

There is a cartoon of explosive on the loo "exploding" somewhere , see if I can find it-lol

The meatballs and Scandinavian connections above remind me of the saying (H.Littleton)---

"As the meatball of gluttony sinks into the slough of gravy, and the Swede is mashed in the exit of Ikea---------"

Oblomov, some people who trade also work for MM's, Brokers, Analysts, even the company itself, they cannot communicate by phone, as all calls are recorded, and a large number ban the use of Mobile Phones at work, because insider dealing by someone from say EVO, would lead to a huge fine for the company(as before ?), and the individual would be fired

Much easier to use coded messages in trades, people have been doing that for years, if they thought it was easier and safer to pick up the phone, I'm sure they would

Erik the Red


FSA hands out 33,000 fines for insider trading

The Financial Services Authority has fined an equity analyst, formerly at Evolution, the stockbroker, and a former finance director of I Feel Good, the Aim-traded publisher of Viz, for insider trading.
Andrew Procter, director of enforcement at the FSA, said: "Selective dissemination of confidential information and its misuse by market participants will not be tolerated by the FSA."
It has now fined six individuals this year for market abuse but this is the first time the FSA has fined individuals for abusive dissemination of information.
The FSA fined Robin Hutchings, at the time an equity analyst at Evolution Beeson Gregory, 18,000 for buying shares for his own use during April 2003 in I Feel Good after speaking with Jason Smith, a friend and ex-colleague who was also IFG's company secretary and finance director.
Mr Smith was privy to takeover discussions between Dennis Publishing and IFG. He confirmed to Mr Hutchings that IFG had accepted a bid from Dennis before it was made known to the market in May. Mr Smith was fined 15,000 by the FSA.
Mr Procter said: "This action demonstrates that we view equally seriously the activities of those who pass on information. This action should concentrate the minds of all those who handle relevant information on their responsibilities."
Mr Hutchings' fine is the second biggest levied against an individual for market abuse. The FSA said if he had not co-operated with the FSA by agreeing to settle the matter the fine would have been "substantially larger".
The FSA said Mr Hutchings did not consult Evolution's compliance department about any of his purchases "although he was aware that he was in possession of price-sensitive information, and deliberately staggered his share purchases to avoid detection".
Evolution said yesterday: "We can confirm that Mr Hutchings worked at the company from November 21 2002 to December 3 2003. The matter is one personal to Mr Hutchings who has now left
the company. Evolution has provided full assistance to the FSA's investigation of this matter."
Last month, Evolution was fined 500,000 by the FSA for market distortion after it sold short [sold shares it did not own] equivalent to 2.5 times the shares available in Room Service, an Aim-traded cash shell. The fine was the second biggest levied on a company by the FSA for market abuse.
The FSA also fined Christopher Potts, Evolution's head of marketmaking, 75,000 - its highest fine against an individual for market abuse. Mr Potts has since left Evolution

Small trades hardly worth the bother at these prices, any thoughts on this, are some of them code ?

The trades were :-

642 at 09:00
567 at 13:30
345 at 13:46
223 at 13:59
223 at 13:59
100 at 14:17
32 at 15:09
651 at 16:21
371 at 16:24
608 at 16:29

Erik the Red

I wonder if ther are share employee share options - or indeed employes selling share options for xmas money ??

Maybe someone used to use numeric pager codes, anyone else had any experience of such systems ?

http://homepages.enterprise.net/lizm/cbcodel.html

Compare them to the numbers I posted earlier, they look like the type of cryptic thing Flange(?) or radioactiveman would send

Erik the Red

Baza, why sell 32 shares or 100 or even 345, at 13.5p to 13.75p if they work for the company they would surely be in the best position to know what news was coming and when it was likely to happen, and they would get a much better price.

On the other hand are they allowed to sell any at the moment anyway ?

Erik the Red

yes - on reflection - not a sensible solution. If they were buys - that would fit - but not sells.

Erik,
Anyone who works for the company can exercise options or trade at any time, providing the employee is not a PDMR.
Alan

The small trades are called pirranha bots. It is used to `work` the prices ie keep it up or down. Manipulation by punters and not MMs

Snip, they must be big punters to not be too bothered about throwing money away on small sells

Must be shorters if they are selling I guess

Erik the Red