cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
cynic
- 27 Feb 2008 16:31
- 1318 of 21973
on the basis that dow has not far to run until next major resistance, have banked some modest profits on sticks which i have bought over the last few days ..... if market surges onwards, so well and good ..... if there is a reaction, and do remember the market has recovered dramatically in the last few days, then the correction could be quite sharp .... some funds in the war chest were never a bad idea
cynic
- 27 Feb 2008 17:19
- 1319 of 21973
for a little light diversion ...... on 3rd January I picked the following stocks to follow in 2008, so let's see how they have done
SCHE then 535.....now 400.5
PFC 550...........536
ORE 76.............82
CEY 59.5..........77.75
TAN 138..........107
BRR 20.75........13.25
and alternates of
EO. 51.5..........57.5
PVCS 148...........138
CRA 58.............75
and perhaps even
VIY 6.1............7.63
i actually hold all of these and others, though have undoubtedly traded most since the new year.
i own up to taking an absolute pasting in mid/late January when the markets collapsed and i was thick, greedy and undisciplined, but am glad to say, though far from my peak then, am recovering nicely.
cynic
- 27 Feb 2008 18:42
- 1320 of 21973
beastly system didn't like my spacing, so cheated instead! .... certainly some stinkers there but also one or two that have done very nicely.
explosive
- 27 Feb 2008 18:49
- 1321 of 21973
I've been relativly unscathed making profits until last Friday. Have taken some heavy hits since then but have closed all positions except one, nice to see 1.5 EUR/USD today and fingers crossed it holds completing the formation. FTSE & DOW at silly levels currently, I think theres an awful lot of goodwill in the price which also goes for a great deal of shares, the indicies highs seam artificial against losses in share price against constituents. Agreed the markets fell too fast too soon and a retracement was due, just I can't justify back to these levels.
cynic
- 27 Feb 2008 19:05
- 1322 of 21973
so have you gone short?
i closed a small long position at 12740 for a modest profit, and after some thought, have now gone short at 12693 .... not convinced either move was correct, but we shall see .... certainly Dow seem to have stalled and a reaction, even if temporary, is surely due; that's my so-called logic anyway
explosive
- 27 Feb 2008 21:36
- 1323 of 21973
Yes short on a Wall St. rolling bet at 12694, done a few trades over 12700 and sold for 12670ish and repeated tonight. Massive fall in the YEN today, didn't have that one on though and with EUR/USD formation complete you can see how costs in the states will be driven up. Higher costs equals less money moving around in the economy resulting in business turnover decline and less profits, less profits, smaller market cap decline in share price.. My logic back...
stroreysj
- 28 Feb 2008 03:12
- 1324 of 21973
Explosive that all sounds negative so stocks much go up . As they say things are different this time i.e insanity has usurped madness
spitfire43
- 28 Feb 2008 09:27
- 1325 of 21973
Have made up my mind now, and short on ftse at 6070, I don't trade dow so no position there, but believe 12750 to be about the top here. Plenty of results to digest today, market likes AV. results, but can't decide on RBS just yet, nor can I, will now return to trying to make sense of the results.
stroreysj
- 28 Feb 2008 09:32
- 1326 of 21973
i dont know why we bother the odds are so stacked against anyone who is on a trading floor. Tried to buy CSR at 319 today only to find td waterhouse couldnt get a price to trade on. Now they are 350. Even when I get it right (which isnt often) not able to trade
spitfire43
- 28 Feb 2008 09:40
- 1327 of 21973
I do find they can be slow to fill orders that I leave on the system, so I tend to sit with my finger on the button ready to trade. Even then I had one last week which failed to trigger, but it worked second time.
cynic
- 28 Feb 2008 09:50
- 1328 of 21973
that's the advantage of a decent on-line broker or whatever ...... i find IG very good, but they of course are only s/b and cfd ..... even if you cannot place your (whole) deal at the prioce indicated, you can easily phone in and they will deal on the spot and/or you can leave a level at which to buy with instruction to part fill, assuming you are happy with that
stroreysj
- 28 Feb 2008 10:04
- 1329 of 21973
shorting stocks on IG before the companies report is the way to make money. Stock falls alot quicker than these rise so it is a calculated risk. If you had shorted rentokil, HSBC, CSR, and AL you could have packed up and gone on holiday for the rest of the year.
BigTed
- 28 Feb 2008 10:22
- 1330 of 21973
Hindsight, i do believe, all we really need is crystal balls, or in my case, just balls...
cynic
- 28 Feb 2008 11:14
- 1331 of 21973
hindsight is wonderful stuff as we all know ..... actually made money both long and short of AL., selling my long yesterday, albeit at only a modest profit, though better than a loss
am currently short of Dow (now with quite tight stop), SOLA and WPP, this last possibly being quite brave
HARRYCAT
- 28 Feb 2008 11:17
- 1332 of 21973
Final results for WPP tomorrow (29th). Advise caution.
cynic
- 28 Feb 2008 11:26
- 1333 of 21973
that is why i said it was quite a brave call
stroreysj
- 28 Feb 2008 11:33
- 1334 of 21973
WPP is expected to be positive but trading down today which is a bit un-nerving but have taken the gamble and gone long
cynic
- 28 Feb 2008 11:43
- 1335 of 21973
Dow short now closed out at modest profit.
str* .... why are you bullish WPP .... pls answer on WPP thread
spitfire43
- 28 Feb 2008 16:29
- 1336 of 21973
re - my earlier short, closed out now, a very good day but mustn't be greedy. Unable to trade tomorrow so best to close now.
required field
- 28 Feb 2008 16:57
- 1337 of 21973
In this market good results mean a drop in sp, more and more crazy !