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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 16:55 - 13199 of 21973

Can being kicked further down the road. last thing markets want.

doodlebug4 - 10 Oct 2013 16:57 - 13200 of 21973

The markets don't seem to be such a big deal of this as you are gf.

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 17:03 - 13201 of 21973

Yep thats right and thats why Ive never been caught out on the big Macro issues.

Capital preservation is the only way you can carry on in this business.

Of course the optimists or should I say the less experienced traders will be talking a good game right up to the cliff edge.

Hope your not over listening to CR. Ask him what happened to him in 2000. I know the true facts.

skinny - 10 Oct 2013 17:03 - 13202 of 21973

Short @6,440

doodlebug4 - 10 Oct 2013 17:19 - 13203 of 21973

LOL gf, you never, ever, get anything wrong despite the fact you were pressing the panic button about this on the Talk to Yourself thread not so long ago. As far as your obvious obsession with what CR is saying - I think that is your problem and not mine. You must know if you follow his thread regularly, I sometimes agree with his opinions and sometimes I don't. You need to get a life mate, you have so many chips on your shoulders they are weighing you down.:-) Another tip from me - stop following all these various idiots on Twitter and stick to the facts.

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 17:26 - 13204 of 21973

Ill give you a fact...... your hero CR lost 95% of his followers to the top traders thread. Now that is a fact.

And secondly one of these idiots on Twitter caught you out hook line and sinker this morning LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL.

I D Smith remember. I could hear Hillary pissing himself laughing down the phone line.

Well worth a look chaps on the Talk To Yourself Thread, havent laughed as much for a long time, and it wasnt meant to be a set up.

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 17:35 - 13205 of 21973

Ive flagged it up. On the Talk to Yourself thread.

Could happen to anyone doodles................maybe.

cynic - 10 Oct 2013 18:26 - 13206 of 21973

don't tell me sticky!
you're another of that large band on here who have never made a duff market call ..... that must be why you're still working at it - or is that just avarice?

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 19:12 - 13207 of 21973

Cynic, what on earth are you talking about?. Get your facts right before following Doodlebug in feet first. Check post 13914 onwards.

Doodlebug has an habit of not reading threads but just jumping on single posts.

Hes done it here many a time and on advfn and got into trouble their aswel.

Ill wait for your apology.............if youve got the balls.

PS, and yes of course Ive got it wrong in the past and admit it. A person who cant admit to his mistakes would be no good as a trader.

doodlebug4 - 10 Oct 2013 19:24 - 13208 of 21973

If CR lost 95% of his followers - according to your figures gf - then perhaps you could explain why it is still the most popular thread on the other side. And if you have nothing better to do with your life than post 'supposed' Twitter comments by IDS or anyone else on bulletin boards then you really are a sad twit.

You started pressing the panic button about the USA situation on the Talk to Yourself thread some time ago and cynic immediately said basically you were over-reacting. Cynic got it absolutely right.

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 19:39 - 13209 of 21973

NO HE DID NOT. He actually closed 2 positions out after my comments and took profits. BLNX being one of them.

Cockney Rebel thread is not most popular thread, historicaly it had most posts not now...... get your facts right.

Thirdly and last but not least the market was down to a 3 month low last night. 1 swallow does not make a summer, not only that but the debt ceiling has only been kicked down the road to the 22nd of NOV (if parties agree) and government is open again (if parties agree).

I said you were a B lister last night a 2nd rater and my god how you have proved that tonight.

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 19:57 - 13210 of 21973

AND HERES THE EVIDENCE....................

cynic- 03 Oct 2013 15:50 - 30506 of 30890

discretion and valour came to mind so encashed BLNX and TCG for tasty profits ..... no one went broke etc etc :-)

skinny - 10 Oct 2013 20:16 - 13211 of 21973

Short again @6,460

doodlebug4 - 10 Oct 2013 20:30 - 13212 of 21973

gf, you are one of these people who will argue black is white. Just how do you figure out that despite the CR thread has most posts it is not the most popular? I see a little green-eyed monster in there who will not admit to the evidence of statistics. Why don't you go and ask Clem which thread has consistently the most hits over the years?

You made it sound as if there was perhaps going to be a big market crash not so long ago on this thread and as it happened the market was probably due a retracement from the highs anyway. Nothing to get silly about and you quite obviously don't begin to understand the American psyche.

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 20:33 - 13213 of 21973

Speaker Boehner: We're offering a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in return for talks

Thursday, 10 Oct 2013 | 2:04 PM ET

The pressure from the public is being felt by Republicans, and they are beginning to make peace with the administration, reports CNBC's John Harwood. Press Secretary Jay Carney said "there seems to be recognition that default is not an option."House Speaker John Boehner said that the GOP would offer a temporary increase in the debt ceiling in return for discussions with President Obama on other budget and deficit issues.



Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-OH) speaks with members of the House Republican leadership during a press conference at the U.S. Capitol following a meeting of the House Republican conference October 10, 2013 in Washington, DC.Republicans have been insistent that budget cuts and other measures be added to the so-called debt ceiling legislation but the aides wouldn't say whether he'll seek to add other material to the measure.

A statement from the White House called Boehner's proposal "an encouraging sign."

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D.-N.Y.) welcomed the news as an indication that the Republicans "are backing off their stand that they have to attach something to it," he told CNBC. "I think they're realizing they were playing with fire."

At the same time he said the short-term nature of the proposal was bad news. "To do this every six weeks would be very devastating to the markets," he said.

It's time for leadership
House Speaker John Boehner addresses the debt ceiling battle. "It's time for leadership and time for negotiations to begin" he says.The news comes after Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew warned Congress of "irrevocable damage" that an unprecedented federal default could cause, even as House Republicans explored a short-term debt limit increase to provide more time to resolve their budget battle with President Barack Obama.


Lew testified before the Senate Finance Committee on the 10th day of a partial federal shutdown and one week before Lew has said the government will deplete its ability to borrow money. Most economists say the federal default that could result would deal a staggering blow to the world economy, though some Republicans have said the damage would be manageable.

Is the debt ceiling debate all for show? The NetNetTV gang cuts to the chase.Lew warned that failure to renew the government's ability to borrow money "could be deeply damaging" to financial markets and threaten Americans' jobs and savings. It would also leave the government unsure of when it could make payments ranging from food aid to Medicare reimbursements to doctors, he said.



Stan - 10 Oct 2013 20:34 - 13214 of 21973

"gf, you are one of these people who will argue black is white.' Sure you don't mean "Alf" Cynic DB -):

skinny - 10 Oct 2013 20:34 - 13215 of 21973

Don't take this personally - or perhaps do - this BB is thin enough on 'reasoned' info - so can you lot fuck off back your favourite thread!

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 20:36 - 13216 of 21973

Doodles, Ive proved you wrong everytime on every issue.

I am not going to clog this thread up arguing with a half wit.

Now pop along its way past your bed time.

REMEMBER, once a second rater you will always be labeled a second rater.

doodlebug4 - 10 Oct 2013 20:43 - 13217 of 21973

I think skinny has just asked us to fuck off, so I will, out of respect to his wishes!!

goldfinger - 10 Oct 2013 20:52 - 13218 of 21973


Debt Cap Raise Until Nov. 22 Gains Support to Bar Default

By Roxana Tiron, Richard Rubin & Chris Strohm - Oct 10, 2013 8:12 PM GMT+0100


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-10/debt-cap-raise-until-nov-22-gains-support-to-bar-default.html

Meeting later tonight.
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