cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Shortie
- 15 Oct 2013 15:31
- 13251 of 21973
DOW Daily
Sometimes out of hours numbers works to your advantage, other times they don't.
hilary
- 15 Oct 2013 15:46
- 13252 of 21973
Shortie,
Your IT-Finance STC indi looks well dodgy to me. The plot certainly shouldn't look like that.
Shortie
- 15 Oct 2013 16:19
- 13253 of 21973
Shouldn't have included it on the above DOW daily.
cynic
- 15 Oct 2013 16:28
- 13254 of 21973
depending on how quick on the trigger you are, for the dow is whizzing around all over the place, i'ld be very nervous (a) of being short and (b) of placing any stop position
my guess is that the time to short will be AFTER the vote, especially if there is some kind of resolution
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2013 16:31
- 13255 of 21973
maitate@maitate22m
ベイナーはよ仕事しろ、“@zerohedge: WHITE HOUSE REJECTS HOUSE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL”
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2013 16:32
- 13256 of 21973
Peter Nicholas@PeterNicholas325m
White House opposes plan emerging from the House.
Calls proposal an attempt "to appease a small group of Tea Party Republicans"
Retweeted by Wall Street Journal
cynic
- 15 Oct 2013 16:37
- 13257 of 21973
well the market does not take much notice of that unsubstantiated nonsense
if there was any credibility to it, then the market would have plunged, whereas dow is not much moved at all - currently down just 23ish
hilary
- 15 Oct 2013 16:37
- 13258 of 21973
Shortie,
I wasn't referring to the instruments - I was referring to the appearance of the plot.
Here's my 1 hour cable chart over the same sort of period to your chart in post 13249, with the indicator applied:
Spot the differences between our two charts. As well as the cycles starting and ending at different times, the plot is intended to be very clear in its direction as it is on my chart.
I've seen something very similar before, and it's as a result of the indicator coding logic being wrong.
goldfinger
- 15 Oct 2013 16:39
- 13259 of 21973
Senators hopeful fiscal deal could pass on Wednesday
Reuters – 1 hour 9 minutes ago
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-senators-hint-possible-fiscal-004610080.html
Shortie
- 15 Oct 2013 16:56
- 13260 of 21973
I see your point Hilary, nothing smooth about my STC indicators. As an extension to MACD crosses though they work for me and my level of competence. Having said that I've never tried a more professional system.
hilary
- 16 Oct 2013 10:43
- 13261 of 21973
Shortie,
The thing about STC is that it's a double-calculated indicator. I've seen a number of attempts at coding it for various platforms since the logic was put into the public domain about 5 or 6 years ago, and some of those attempts have been very wide of the mark in terms of what the indicator plot should look like. For some reason, the coders have failed to apply the double-calculation logic correctly.
Shortie
- 16 Oct 2013 11:09
- 13262 of 21973
Maybe I should complain, they might give me their MetaTrader4 software.
Shortie
- 16 Oct 2013 11:12
- 13263 of 21973
Skinny good call on your 6560 short yesterday
skinny
- 16 Oct 2013 11:15
- 13264 of 21973
Thanks Shortie - I was tempted to add earlier - but didn't - now just watching.
One thing for sure - the perception of the Yanks overseas has been further tarnished.
hilary
- 16 Oct 2013 11:19
- 13265 of 21973
MT4 is free from hundreds of places. I have the STC in MQL4 if you need it.
Shortie
- 16 Oct 2013 11:45
- 13266 of 21973
Thank you Hilary, I'll spend some time having a look
http://docs.mql4.com/
I thought these system required your own programming which is something I've never done.
Shortie
- 16 Oct 2013 11:48
- 13267 of 21973
The US still in talks to re-open and avert a default is starting to make the markets nervous, but there are still no major moves in FX. Yesterday we had a strong USD as the US were talking and it was assumed that a resolution was on the way. This was followed by a weak USD as no decision was made and comments from the White House said we’re far from a deal.
Fitch upped the pressure on the US by stating that it would strip America of its AAA credit rating if they were to default.
Fed’s Fisher also made comments about QE this coming month and due to the Government shutdown and continuing talks on raising the debt limit he sees no QE cuts this month, and he is a very vocal Hawk.
Today’s data announcements start in the UK with the claimant count change and unemployment rate expected at -24.3k and 7.7%. If the data comes in as expected and with no US news until later, this could give cable a lift back above the 1.6000 level which it briefly broke yesterday.
Euro data is to follow with inflation expected to be at 1.1%. If there are no surprises, this may keep the euro subdued due to the outcome of the UK data and maybe a EUR/GBP trade due to uncertainty in the US.
ECB’s Draghi is talking later tonight. Not much is expected with the occasion but it is always worth a listen for any future developments and maybe a view of what is going on in the US and how it will affect the euro.
skinny
- 16 Oct 2013 11:54
- 13268 of 21973
For info - Draghi is @7pm our time.
goldfinger
- 16 Oct 2013 13:17
- 13269 of 21973
Not looking good is it.
Would be a shame if the whole world was thrown back into recession.
Fingers crossed we get some common sense in the next 24 hours.
goldfinger
- 16 Oct 2013 13:24
- 13270 of 21973
Just looking at the coding debate above. Very interesting.
Reminds me of my earlier days on the market inter day trading the indicies and forex.
I always found keeping it simple was the best way, although I dabbled with coding and also looked at other codes for indicators on the big Yank site Trade Station.....such and such.
Trouble is with trading systems markets are contionously changing.