Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Yes, but I realise it and not unhappy about being so.

Mind, I can realise what a disaster the proposal of the EU referendum is for the UK.

Congratulation to Cameron and Osborne.

Little people in big places.

Wrong playground.

Con party self-interest at its best!

Revelations that the REMAIN side are prepared to cheat to get their way.
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Sounds like the Con party to me.

Perfect example.

Not moral, but what you can get away with. (Capitalism at its best.)

8-)

Fred(1324) "Independent thinker. often out of step with his own party and failed to get the support he thought due to him"

"He is another one of "Yesterdays people" out of touch and suitable fodder for the "Brexiters" cohorts."


Haha, at first i thought fred was describing Corbyn until i read he was talking about Frank Field....

There seems to be a lot of past has beens now running the Labour party, with the champagne socialist hovering in the back ground...LMFAO!!

Fred(1327)

"Mind, I can realise what a disaster the proposal of the referendum is for the UK"


Another corker from the loony left liberal fool..We are now seeing the reason why idiots like him don't want a 'free democratic referendum vote' on whether to stay or LEAVE the corrupt, undemocratic, unaccountable european project.....

granny he undoubtedly is twisted in his fantasies .

fred is contrary deliberately .... 99.5% of what you write, he'll disagree with on principle

Granny's boy,

Check rising membership levels of Labour party and age groupings of that membership against falling number of the torrid party and U-kipper party.

The referendum was an attempt by Cameron to placate the looney right of the tory, some of which were migrating to the BNP and UKIP. A short term policy which Cameron couldn't u-turn out of.

But little englanders are entitled to continue hold to their dreams.

But, it seems more informed opinion are suggesting it is a foolish dream.

On the subject of champagne socialists, why does the Beast of Bolsover, Dennis Skinner, think he has the right to an hereditary seat in the house of commons?

The only thing the Labour party is recruiting is those from the socialist workers party..

Lets see if that's enough to get Labour elected, Eh...

My bettings on anyone other then the Labour party....

The referendum was called, because as i've already stated, Cameron didn't expect to win the GE outright, and also the popularity of UKIP..

I've NEVER voted for the Tory's in my life, never intend to or any of the other establishment parties..


And that anti-sematic racist from Bradford, Labours Naz Shah has had to make a grovelling apology in an effort to save her political skin....

Fred you have been given the real meaning of little Englanders are you so thick that you don't get that you were wrong .
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Why Little Englanders Are Good Eggs (And Those Who Sneer At Them Are Patronising, Racist Colonialists)


Vernon Coleman


Those who want England to leave Hitler’s Bastard Lovechild (aka The European Union aka Clegg’s Pension Fund) are frequently demonised by fascist EU lovers.

The favourite insult among EU lovers is to describe all eurosceptics as `Little Englanders’. I suspect that the EU lovers are showing their ignorance. Those who use this term in a pejorative fashion clearly don't understand its origin or meaning. (But then the EU aficionados are not renowned for their understanding of history, their sense of culture or their intelligence.) The fact is that the term Little Englander dates from the Boer War and refers to people who were, at the time, opposed to the English Empire and who were anti-Imperialist. The Little Englanders wanted the English to stop taking over the world. Such folk were, at the time, regarded as unpatriotic.

Today, ignorant pro-EU fascists use the term as one of abuse. And so it seems safe to assume that all those who are not Little Englanders must, by definition, be determined that England should take over the world, colonising distant parts of the world, painting maps pink and generally proving themselves to be latter day racists.

IT.

Skinner stands for election to the HP.

The majority of his electorate vote for him.

Check his attendances at the HP.

Also, from "memory" he "gifts" or did so, a portion of his parliamentary income to a "cause".


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C+P

Commons attendance[edit]
In the 2004–2005 sitting of the House he claimed the least expenses for an MP who served the full year.[38] He has never been a member of an All-Party Parliamentary Group;[39] does not eat alongside parliamentary colleagues in the Commons dining room; does not take trips or holidays paid for by others; never drinks in the Commons Bar; and stays in the House of Commons during the Queen's Speech at the State Opening of Parliament, as he advocates outright abolition of the House of Lords.
Check his expenses claim.


Perhaps, I would have him as an MP than quite a few others.

Skinner only goes to the HP to save him money on keeping warm at home and the subsidised canteen which he uses to get his sarnies and yes! cheap beer.....

Good for him.

I believe the food and bars of the HP are subsidised.

Also, many of the con party look upon the MPs expense and pay as pocket money and spend a high proportion of their time at other jobs.

Have a look at Boris's declared income for 3 or more jobs when he seems incapable of doing one.

Dumbo,

(JB)

As previously answered. Check the first time you post on little englander.

Also, check common parlance.

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Little Englander -
"Little Englander" is an epithet applied in criticisms of British nationalists, English nationalists, or English people who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being "ignorant" and "boorish".
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I think it adequately summates you.

Ignorant and boorish :) you don't think thats you then ?

You are truly thick fred.. It makes anyone wonder how You
manage to find anything to C&P, because you obviously don't
read your own C&P research, and then go on to repeat something
someone else posted with the indication that YOU hadn't read that posters post.


If you look at most if not all of the Labour party you'l see
they've never had a proper job and have come straight from
university, usually after training to be Lawyers (Human Rights sector)..

Granny's Boy and Dumbo.

Try this then.

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Money | Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:04pm BST Related: MONEY HOME, MONEY
UK faces "major negative shock" if leaves EU - OECD
LONDON | BY WILLIAM SCHOMBERG



Britain's large current account deficit could become harder to finance and sterling might slide if it votes to leave the European Union at a referendum in June, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said on Wednesday.


In the latest warning from an international body about the risks of a so-called Brexit, the OECD said Britain's economy would suffer a "major negative shock" and be 3 percent smaller by 2020 if it left the EU than if it stayed in, rising to 5 percent by 2030.

The uncertainty about Britain's economic prospects would raise the risk that the country would struggle to finance its large balance of payments shortfall, the OECD said in a report.

"A danger is that large capital outflows, or a break in inflows, might threaten the financing of the record-high current account deficit of 7 percent of GDP," it said.

The financial shock would be magnified by the appreciation of other currencies against sterling, it said.

The pound weakened sharply in early 2016 on concerns about the June 23 referendum but it touched a 12-week high against the dollar on Wednesday on signs that the "In" campaign was gaining some momentum. However, opinion polls continue to point to a close outcome of the vote.

The OECD warned that impact of a Brexit would not just be felt in Britain.

"A UK exit (Brexit) would be a major negative shock to the UK economy, with economic fallout in the rest of the OECD, particularly other European countries," it said.

The cost to the remaining members of the EU would be around 1 percentage point of gross domestic product by 2020, the report estimated.

The OECD said some of the hit to Britain's economy could be offset if it managed to strike a trade deal with the EU similar to the agreement the bloc reached recently with Canada and which has been held up as a possible model by some "Out" campaigners.

"Yet, the costs of accessing the (EU's) single market would still be higher than they are now after that time," it said.

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Don't write it's foolish!

i've become an excellent speed skater of late .......... comes from plenty of practice skating straight past fred's innumerable posts