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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Shortie - 05 Nov 2013 15:18 - 13372 of 21973

I'm still unconvinced that world economies are improving. World governments might be massaging the figures with austerity, super low interest rates and increased money supply but this doesn't constitute an improving economy.

cynic - 05 Nov 2013 15:22 - 13373 of 21973

be as unconvinced as you like, but here at the sharp end (moving chemicals and gases) the signs are loud and clear

goldfinger - 05 Nov 2013 15:45 - 13374 of 21973

Dont forget shortie the market factors in 6 to 9 months down the road.

cynic - 05 Nov 2013 15:53 - 13375 of 21973

from our perspective, i just look at the volume of biz we are doing ...... if companies are shipping chemicals, then the clear implication is that stocks are now depleted

Shortie - 05 Nov 2013 15:57 - 13376 of 21973

Sounds like a snippet from the Syria thread!

The problem when considering growth is that you also need to take into consideration debt. Both public and private debt levels remain unsustainable so where does that leave growth. I'd agree that commodities should improve as they are unimpaired as Jim Rogers has preached for the last decade. This commodities rally though doesn't necessarily mean that world economies will also improve, it does however mean that inflation will outpace growth as something we're already seeing.

cynic - 05 Nov 2013 15:58 - 13377 of 21973

shortie - read what i have written, not what you want to have been written :-)

Shortie - 05 Nov 2013 16:13 - 13378 of 21973

Cynic I take it your in this little boom then http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/tankers-chemicals-idUSL4N0HR32G20131101

cynic - 05 Nov 2013 16:22 - 13379 of 21973

not exactly, but similar
we lease tank-containers for liquid chemicals and gases
their format is like those for dry freight boxes - for sure you've seen those on the back of trucks etc - but it's like a road-barrel within the same 20' x 8' x 8'6" framework

goldfinger - 05 Nov 2013 16:22 - 13380 of 21973

Certainly things are better than a year ago guys but you couldnt call this a convincing world recovery and it it sustainable?. Like Ive always said TA is trade what U see not what U think.

ps, CYNERS sgp RESULTS ON THE 7TH wed.


pps, to hold or not to hold?. I think they will be top notch results but this market is vicious at the moment on results. Think Ill hold on results day and play it from their.

cynic - 05 Nov 2013 16:30 - 13381 of 21973

SPG - i'll prob hold all until after the results ..... market is suddenly getting quite keen again

RECOVERY - i'm telling you what i see and have done for a number of months; confess i feel rather like cassandra (no, not from fools and horses!)

goldfinger - 05 Nov 2013 17:25 - 13382 of 21973

A bit more on my mining sector breakout.

Banks and Mining usualy go hand and hand together on wether we have economic growth and a recovery.

Chart for banks is far less convincing than the Miners chart but it looks like we are at a place where we have higher lows and lower highs and anytime now a breakout one way or the other. See below.........

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cynic - 05 Nov 2013 17:31 - 13383 of 21973

that banking chart is not at all pretty .....

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goldfinger - 05 Nov 2013 18:04 - 13384 of 21973

Whats that BATMAN and 2 chums.

Chris Carson - 05 Nov 2013 19:47 - 13385 of 21973

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Loch Ness Monster. More scope to the upside than downside don't you think?

cynic - 05 Nov 2013 20:27 - 13386 of 21973

looks best left alone to me

skinny - 05 Nov 2013 20:40 - 13387 of 21973

If I were trading it, I'd be looking for a bounce @4,800.

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goldfinger - 05 Nov 2013 22:27 - 13388 of 21973

Yep same here Skinny when I looked at it the second time.

In fact youd have med term negative symmetrical triangle pattern.

Would do this mean for the Bankers chart then??.

Perhaphs wait and see like Im doing with the whole market at the moment.

Will keep my mining long going with a following tight stop. Probably be out tomorrow afternoon, but then who knows with the market.

Shortie - 06 Nov 2013 10:59 - 13389 of 21973

Off subject but last night I paid dividends on my short UK 100 DFTs but didn't receive any dividends on my long UK 100 Mar 14 Spread. I'm trying to find out why? A call later will probally be inevitable...

On the above banking chart I'm with Cynic looks best left alone, I'm reading it as a break in 4800 for a short play on the basis of Skinnys last chart and the declining RSI. A retest of 4550 I think is more likely before any upside.

skinny - 06 Nov 2013 15:04 - 13390 of 21973

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Shortie - 06 Nov 2013 16:27 - 13391 of 21973

Did you go short on the DOW, I debated it but didn't.
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