rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

shortie - read what i have written, not what you want to have been written :-)

Cynic I take it your in this little boom then http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/01/tankers-chemicals-idUSL4N0HR32G20131101

not exactly, but similar
we lease tank-containers for liquid chemicals and gases
their format is like those for dry freight boxes - for sure you've seen those on the back of trucks etc - but it's like a road-barrel within the same 20' x 8' x 8'6" framework

Certainly things are better than a year ago guys but you couldnt call this a convincing world recovery and it it sustainable?. Like Ive always said TA is trade what U see not what U think.

ps, CYNERS sgp RESULTS ON THE 7TH wed.


pps, to hold or not to hold?. I think they will be top notch results but this market is vicious at the moment on results. Think Ill hold on results day and play it from their.

SPG - i'll prob hold all until after the results ..... market is suddenly getting quite keen again

RECOVERY - i'm telling you what i see and have done for a number of months; confess i feel rather like cassandra (no, not from fools and horses!)

A bit more on my mining sector breakout.

Banks and Mining usualy go hand and hand together on wether we have economic growth and a recovery.

Chart for banks is far less convincing than the Miners chart but it looks like we are at a place where we have higher lows and lower highs and anytime now a breakout one way or the other. See below.........

that banking chart is not at all pretty .....

Whats that BATMAN and 2 chums.

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Loch Ness Monster. More scope to the upside than downside don't you think?

looks best left alone to me

If I were trading it, I'd be looking for a bounce @4,800.

Yep same here Skinny when I looked at it the second time.

In fact youd have med term negative symmetrical triangle pattern.

Would do this mean for the Bankers chart then??.

Perhaphs wait and see like Im doing with the whole market at the moment.

Will keep my mining long going with a following tight stop. Probably be out tomorrow afternoon, but then who knows with the market.

Off subject but last night I paid dividends on my short UK 100 DFTs but didn't receive any dividends on my long UK 100 Mar 14 Spread. I'm trying to find out why? A call later will probally be inevitable...

On the above banking chart I'm with Cynic looks best left alone, I'm reading it as a break in 4800 for a short play on the basis of Skinnys last chart and the declining RSI. A retest of 4550 I think is more likely before any upside.

Did you go short on the DOW, I debated it but didn't.

No - the FTSE is almost range bound, but I'm still largely short!

shorts dow = burning shorts, shirts, underpants and worse :-)

now, when dow gets to 16,000 or preferably a bit higher, then that's the time to short

Hi Guys ( and girls) - just thought I would pop in say hello and take a look at what you have been up to - you are all far too technical foe me - but you seem to be doing well.

I took out a sizeable long a couple of weeks ago at 6661 (average) AND HAVE A 6700 stop on it. Came close yesterday - but am hoping to run it into 6800 over next couple of weeks on current phase of muted euphoria that appears to be driving the market through to year end.

As you may remember - I am a fan of AMER - which despite its excellent results - its SP seems to have stalled for now - I am still hopeful of a subsatntial rise from here over the next 12 - 18 months. Have also invested in IRONveld (same management team as AMER) which I expect to reap handsome rewards over next 3 - 5 years (my AMER replacement) and Verona Pharma (VRP) - which is fairly new to me - but has had good write ups in papers and an excellent review in the Lancett. As always DYOR

Be lucky- sorry sounds like I am trying to push the above - but just passing on a couple of shares that I have modest investments in and what I think are reasonable long term investments.

Best wishes to all

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bhunt, I'm currently running a long FTSE March 14 Future and short DFT's, currently weighted short. I think having a 6700 stop is a little high, I think bullish sentiment will remain as long as the market closes above 6680.

I've got AMER on watch and will have a look at IRONveld (thanks for the tip)...