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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2016 13:53 - 1340 of 12628

Good for him.

I believe the food and bars of the HP are subsidised.

Also, many of the con party look upon the MPs expense and pay as pocket money and spend a high proportion of their time at other jobs.

Have a look at Boris's declared income for 3 or more jobs when he seems incapable of doing one.

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2016 14:03 - 1341 of 12628

Dumbo,

(JB)

As previously answered. Check the first time you post on little englander.

Also, check common parlance.

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Little Englander -
"Little Englander" is an epithet applied in criticisms of British nationalists, English nationalists, or English people who are regarded as xenophobic and/or overly nationalistic and are often accused of being "ignorant" and "boorish".
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I think it adequately summates you.

jimmy b - 27 Apr 2016 14:56 - 1342 of 12628

Ignorant and boorish :) you don't think thats you then ?

grannyboy - 27 Apr 2016 14:59 - 1343 of 12628

You are truly thick fred.. It makes anyone wonder how You
manage to find anything to C&P, because you obviously don't
read your own C&P research, and then go on to repeat something
someone else posted with the indication that YOU hadn't read that posters post.


If you look at most if not all of the Labour party you'l see
they've never had a proper job and have come straight from
university, usually after training to be Lawyers (Human Rights sector)..

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2016 15:04 - 1344 of 12628

Granny's Boy and Dumbo.

Try this then.

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Money | Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:04pm BST Related: MONEY HOME, MONEY
UK faces "major negative shock" if leaves EU - OECD
LONDON | BY WILLIAM SCHOMBERG



Britain's large current account deficit could become harder to finance and sterling might slide if it votes to leave the European Union at a referendum in June, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said on Wednesday.


In the latest warning from an international body about the risks of a so-called Brexit, the OECD said Britain's economy would suffer a "major negative shock" and be 3 percent smaller by 2020 if it left the EU than if it stayed in, rising to 5 percent by 2030.

The uncertainty about Britain's economic prospects would raise the risk that the country would struggle to finance its large balance of payments shortfall, the OECD said in a report.

"A danger is that large capital outflows, or a break in inflows, might threaten the financing of the record-high current account deficit of 7 percent of GDP," it said.

The financial shock would be magnified by the appreciation of other currencies against sterling, it said.

The pound weakened sharply in early 2016 on concerns about the June 23 referendum but it touched a 12-week high against the dollar on Wednesday on signs that the "In" campaign was gaining some momentum. However, opinion polls continue to point to a close outcome of the vote.

The OECD warned that impact of a Brexit would not just be felt in Britain.

"A UK exit (Brexit) would be a major negative shock to the UK economy, with economic fallout in the rest of the OECD, particularly other European countries," it said.

The cost to the remaining members of the EU would be around 1 percentage point of gross domestic product by 2020, the report estimated.

The OECD said some of the hit to Britain's economy could be offset if it managed to strike a trade deal with the EU similar to the agreement the bloc reached recently with Canada and which has been held up as a possible model by some "Out" campaigners.

"Yet, the costs of accessing the (EU's) single market would still be higher than they are now after that time," it said.

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Don't write it's foolish!

cynic - 27 Apr 2016 15:08 - 1345 of 12628

i've become an excellent speed skater of late .......... comes from plenty of practice skating straight past fred's innumerable posts

jimmy b - 27 Apr 2016 15:23 - 1346 of 12628

VICTIM - 27 Apr 2016 15:32 - 1347 of 12628

If the pound weakens exporters will be better off , no ? .If the rest of the EU are so scared of our exit why don't they get off their scaredy horse and put pressure on MERKEL to budge and start assessing the options to make the EU members happy . What about the money we pay to the EU , does that just disappear into thin air . Just some maybe misguided thoughts . Maybe too simple .

VICTIM - 27 Apr 2016 15:41 - 1348 of 12628

Let's be honest they are so scared of Germany there's no chance . Germany rules OK .

Fred1new - 27 Apr 2016 15:51 - 1349 of 12628

Manuel,

As per usual, you will probably fall flat on your face.

grannyboy - 27 Apr 2016 17:45 - 1350 of 12628

It's a pity we can't trust the governments and so called expert financial institutions on any figures or future predictions.

Take the OECD, which is based in Paris, and obviously an EU leaning organisation..

But don't just take my word for it!


telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/beware-the oecd-and-its-faulty-assumptions-on brexit/

grannyboy - 27 Apr 2016 17:49 - 1351 of 12628

And of course to cut the deficit the UK needs to sell more goods and services abroad, like to the broader market ie commonwealth rest of world etc....

Haystack - 27 Apr 2016 18:01 - 1352 of 12628

Also beware all the right wing newspapers such as the Telegraph, Daily Mail, Express and Sun. You won't get a balanced view from them any more than you will from the left wing papers such as the Mirror.

grannyboy - 27 Apr 2016 21:23 - 1353 of 12628

Well you certainly don't get a neutral view or reliable figures from the government, what you've got to try and do is sift through all you read/hear/see and use common sense and experience to see what adds up...

fred and stan would be stumped..

Stan - 27 Apr 2016 22:10 - 1354 of 12628

Pot & Kettle alert!

grannyboy - 28 Apr 2016 08:04 - 1355 of 12628

Pinky & Perky! Dumb & Dumber = fred & stan LOL!

Stan - 28 Apr 2016 08:19 - 1356 of 12628

Granny must be proud of you.

ExecLine - 28 Apr 2016 10:50 - 1357 of 12628

VICTIM - 28 Apr 2016 11:06 - 1358 of 12628

You would think Britain was some 3rd rate Dictator run communist state before we joined the common market or is it the EU . wondered when they would start using celebrities , just imagine the last few weeks .

Stan - 28 Apr 2016 11:11 - 1359 of 12628

If some of you RW Muppets took your blinkers off for once in your lives and actually thought about "All" the issues about EU membership you would might just might be better informed.. fat chance of that happening I suppose on here.
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