Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

If the pound weakens exporters will be better off , no ? .If the rest of the EU are so scared of our exit why don't they get off their scaredy horse and put pressure on MERKEL to budge and start assessing the options to make the EU members happy . What about the money we pay to the EU , does that just disappear into thin air . Just some maybe misguided thoughts . Maybe too simple .

Let's be honest they are so scared of Germany there's no chance . Germany rules OK .

Manuel,

As per usual, you will probably fall flat on your face.

It's a pity we can't trust the governments and so called expert financial institutions on any figures or future predictions.

Take the OECD, which is based in Paris, and obviously an EU leaning organisation..

But don't just take my word for it!


telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/beware-the oecd-and-its-faulty-assumptions-on brexit/

And of course to cut the deficit the UK needs to sell more goods and services abroad, like to the broader market ie commonwealth rest of world etc....

Also beware all the right wing newspapers such as the Telegraph, Daily Mail, Express and Sun. You won't get a balanced view from them any more than you will from the left wing papers such as the Mirror.

Well you certainly don't get a neutral view or reliable figures from the government, what you've got to try and do is sift through all you read/hear/see and use common sense and experience to see what adds up...

fred and stan would be stumped..

Pot & Kettle alert!

Pinky & Perky! Dumb & Dumber = fred & stan LOL!

Granny must be proud of you.

You would think Britain was some 3rd rate Dictator run communist state before we joined the common market or is it the EU . wondered when they would start using celebrities , just imagine the last few weeks .

If some of you RW Muppets took your blinkers off for once in your lives and actually thought about "All" the issues about EU membership you would might just might be better informed.. fat chance of that happening I suppose on here.

some of us like me gave a great deal of thought to BOTH sides of the argument and made a decision accordingly

Imagine Stan saying that ,someone who is influenced by Fred of all people .

I have thought through all the pro's and con's and there is not many pro's

None on here thinks your right Stan .

I don't have a stance on the subject JB as I stated months ago on here so don't start making assumptions and pointing the finger.

Coming from someone who thought the TSB BANK was still independent 3 months after it was taken over , and says pot kettle alert , pot kettle alert like a demented parrot day in day out .

Of do shut you boring oink and give the organ grinder a right of rely.. if he's got one.

There really is only one issue that matters Stanley. Is it sustainable?
The clear answer is no and enlarging the EU because of mismanagement now, such as adding Turkey, will only make matters worse. All the umming and arring doesn't get around the fact that I wouldn't trust the EU commission to run a corner shop, let alone all of europe and part of asia.
Many of the new additions are former soviet bloc members where loyalty to the cause was more important than loyalty to the people. As new governments are formed, such as in Poland, the people want to know just exactly what these apparatchiks, many now in EU posts, were up to during that time. THE EU, like the Soviet Union, doesn't like democracy. It is dangerous to the cause.