mitzy
- 15 Sep 2008 11:16
Today they have fallen 22% to a new low of 223p ..are they another Marconi..?
The chart looks like one long suicide note.
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 08:42
- 137 of 569
Cant understand Barclays either - Down graded last night by SP, same announcement that seemed to knacker Hbos - and there up - does anybody know what is actually going on! Who makes Prozac - they'll be worth a punt !
dealerdear
- 18 Sep 2008 08:43
- 138 of 569
I need an aspirin ..
cynic
- 18 Sep 2008 08:45
- 139 of 569
Pfizer + hundreds of fakes on internet!
mitzy
- 18 Sep 2008 08:48
- 140 of 569
Keep an eye on Lloyds could fall 20%.
cynic
- 18 Sep 2008 09:01
- 141 of 569
or even 30% or even go up by 20% ...... sorry mitzy, but not one of your more perceptive comments!
scotinvestor
- 18 Sep 2008 09:04
- 142 of 569
hornby should be hung, drawn and quartered
scotinvestor
- 18 Sep 2008 09:05
- 143 of 569
english tw?ts screwing up one of the oldest of worlds financial institutions in the space of a couple of years......unbelievable
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 09:09
- 144 of 569
What if they both fall ?? Who picks up the pieces then -
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 09:14
- 145 of 569
Does anyone actually know exactly how the deal works yet ? Because every which way I look at it , it doesn't stack up.
scotinvestor
- 18 Sep 2008 09:17
- 146 of 569
hbos board should be in jail for life
nordcaperen
- 18 Sep 2008 09:22
- 147 of 569
Guess the shareholders aren't happy then !
Strawbs
- 18 Sep 2008 09:33
- 148 of 569
OK. For those struggling with the maths, here's how I work out the price.
HBOS - Closed yesterday at 147.1
LLOY - Closed yesterday at 279.75
You have 100 HBOS shares valued at 1,471.00. Lloyds gives you .83 shares for each one you own. You now have 83 Lloyds shares valued at 2,321.925. If you divide 2,321.925 by 100 (your original HBOS holding), you get 2.32.
As I understand it, if the Lloyds price now goes up then you're doing better on the deal, if it tanks then you're doing worse on the deal.
Hope that helps.
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
Dil
- 18 Sep 2008 09:35
- 149 of 569
And you wonder why they won't give the scots more power to run themselves !
Whole bloody country would be bust in a month.
cynic
- 18 Sep 2008 09:36
- 150 of 569
both sets of shareholders should be very happy indeed ...... HBOS lot got out with their shirts and Lloyds got a bargain which they couldn't have dreamt of ..... though HBOS may have a somewhat dodgy mortgage book (or does that US bit come under banking?) it's negative part will be heavily diluted by Lloyds "positive" part ..... finally, by one lucky flip of the coin, Lloyds has become a significant world banking institution
Dil
- 18 Sep 2008 09:37
- 151 of 569
And mitzy wherever the sp goes short term this is a cracking deal for LLOY medium term.
tcdmct1963
- 18 Sep 2008 09:43
- 152 of 569
Dil please no more personnel quotes regarding the Scottish.If it wasnt for scottish oil were would the whole UK be.
Dil
- 18 Sep 2008 09:45
- 153 of 569
If they ran the industry like they ran their banks ... up the swany.
Clubman3509
- 18 Sep 2008 09:46
- 154 of 569
What I don't understand is you can buy HBOS now for 198 so if HBOS shareholders will get 2.32 why is everybody not buying HBOS
required field
- 18 Sep 2008 09:49
- 155 of 569
Well...there's one thing for sure....in the high street ....many a time Lloyds and HBOS are near each other.....one will have to close....should mean a lot more Tesco express shops around !.
Strawbs
- 18 Sep 2008 09:49
- 156 of 569
As I understand it. Everything is based on last nights closing price. You don't get 2.32 per share, you get .83 Lloyds shares (whatever they are valued at) for each HBOS share. Based on last nights close that was worth 2.32. Today it could be more, it could be less, just depends where the Lloyds and HBOS prices go.
In my opinion.
Strawbs.