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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

Douggie - 13 Aug 2004 10:44 - 1375 of 2406

mornin Oakapples :o)) a warm smile I am pleased ;-\ a wry /quizzical in this lonly watch it amuses me and I hope others good wishes

Oakapples142 - 13 Aug 2004 12:25 - 1376 of 2406


Thanks Douggie - ":0))"

Douggie - 13 Aug 2004 13:25 - 1377 of 2406

:o[[ and this of course suits todays performance !!

gruffly bear - 13 Aug 2004 15:01 - 1378 of 2406

Press Release Source: CyberSource Corporation


CyberSource Sues Retail Decisions for Patent Infringement
Friday August 13, 8:00 am ET


MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif., Aug. 13 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- CyberSource Corporation (Nasdaq: CYBS - News) announced today that it has filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Retail Decisions, Inc. and Retail Decisions plc. The suit was filed in the U.S. District Court, Northern District of California.
(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990513/CYBRSOURCELOGO )
The complaint alleges that Retail Decisions' eBitGuard product uses technology covered by U.S. Patent No. 6,029,154, "Method and System for Detecting Fraud in a Credit Card Transaction Over the Internet." The application for the patent was filed in July 1997 and the patent was issued to CyberSource in February 2000.

CyberSource is asking the court to enjoin Retail Decisions from infringing CyberSource's patent as well as for an award of damages adequate to compensate CyberSource for the harm resulting from Retail Decisions' infringement and treble damages based upon Retail Decisions' willful infringement.

About CyberSource

CyberSource Corporation is a leading provider of electronic payment and risk management solutions. CyberSource solutions enable electronic payment processing for Web, call center/IVR, and POS environments and manage fraud risk associated with card-not-present transactions. CyberSource Professional Services designs, integrates, and optimizes enterprise-wide commerce transaction systems. Over 4000 businesses use CyberSource solutions, including half of the Dow Jones Industrial companies. The company is headquartered in Mountain View, California, and has sales and service offices in Japan, the United Kingdom, and other locations in the United States. For more information, please visit CyberSource's web site at www.cybersource.com or email info@cybersource.com.

NOTE: CyberSource is a registered trademark in the U.S. and other countries. All other brands and product names are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective companies.


http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040813/sff015_1.html

Recruiterrr - 13 Aug 2004 15:10 - 1379 of 2406

this could absolutely tank short term.

Oakapples142 - 13 Aug 2004 15:15 - 1380 of 2406



And there was me elsewhere having a b..... good day. As we know this could go on for ages and result in nothing. Too late to sell so its grin and bear it - again!

geeboy30 - 13 Aug 2004 15:22 - 1381 of 2406

there is a lot of buying at around 14p. mabe we are not dead and buried yet

geeboy30 - 13 Aug 2004 15:26 - 1382 of 2406

going down again, i think we are screwed

Douggie - 13 Aug 2004 15:27 - 1383 of 2406

OOOOOOOOOOwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ohhhhhhhdear just when I was thinking things couldnt get much worse in my portfolio now this (this being my good share) ;o[[[[

Douggie - 13 Aug 2004 15:32 - 1384 of 2406

this is what usualy happens to me when I am on holiday this has come a bit soon I don't go 'till tamorrer. should I panic or is it too late for that? only 3p prfit left!!!!!!!!!!

geeboy30 - 13 Aug 2004 15:35 - 1385 of 2406

why join all the rats leaving the sinking ship? go on holiday and fuggetabowit

Fundamentalist - 13 Aug 2004 17:09 - 1386 of 2406

OMG !!!!!! the curse of friday the 13th!!!!!!

Great timing not to have my laptop (its in for more repairs at Toshiba!!!). Just seen the news! Big worry is that a lot will not have seen it today and there will be more selling on monday morning.

Saying that I am confused.

1) Why would a senior member of staff leave a company for a competitor that its previous employer was about to sue to for patent infringement (she was in a position where surely she would have known).

2) My understanding is we are talking about basically a filing system here which is not something that would be covered under a patent imo.

3) why now when this patent is 7 years old and been theirs for 4 years (a few days after they have poached one of your top members of staff)

4) Why was this not released simultaneously in the UK as well as the US and why have RTD not issued an RNS in response!



STORMCALLER - 13 Aug 2004 17:27 - 1387 of 2406

Fundy,
They cannot issue a response without recourse to legal advice, this being Friday, they will all be long gone, yesterday afternoon at a guess, for the weekend.

Regards

SC

apple - 13 Aug 2004 17:29 - 1388 of 2406

Sounds like utter nonsense to me, many fraud prevention companies & banks have been doing this since way before 1997 so CyberSource have got no chance of winning.

CyberSource wouldn't dare take on a big bank, I suppose they hope RTD will pay them to stop hassling them rather than spend money on lawyers.

Big Al - 13 Aug 2004 17:32 - 1389 of 2406

RTD - Bounce Monday?

http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200408131720599740B.html

Fundamentalist - 13 Aug 2004 18:05 - 1390 of 2406

RNS as issued:


Retail Decisions plc

Share Price Movement

The Board of Retail Decisions ('ReD'), the fuel card operator and world leader
in card fraud prevention and payment processing, notes the recent movement in
its share price.

The Board is also aware of an action that has been filed in the US by
CyberSource Corporation, one of ReD's competitors. The action alleges a patent
infringement in relation to one of ReD's card fraud screening services,
ebitGuard, which operates in the 'Card Not Present' ('CNP') market.

In the first seven months of the current financial year (to July 2004) ebitGuard
accounted for approximately 3% of ReD's group turnover and considerably less of
its operating profit.

The Board of ReD is investigating CyberSource's claim, but at first glance it
knows of no patent infringement and therefore believes the claim to be without
foundation. If this proves to be the case upon further investigation, ReD will
defend its position vigorously.

petralva - 13 Aug 2004 19:36 - 1391 of 2406

why wait 4 years?

Douggie - 13 Aug 2004 19:40 - 1392 of 2406

well that was THE week that was, great optimism start week positive news, to this, if there is no case to answer much damage has been done how long will it take to regain share price? :o[[

Fred1new - 13 Aug 2004 20:13 - 1393 of 2406

You will have to go on holidays again Douggie. You are looking pale and I am worried.

You muust take longer holidays. :-< )

moneyplus - 13 Aug 2004 21:07 - 1394 of 2406

Let's hope the trading update in Sept?? will give us a boost. The statement today seemed to be reassuring, I'm still hopeful!
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