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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


Treblewide - 19 Dec 2005 12:06 - 13834 of 27111

" manipiulated graphic" how can you manipulate a chart? sub 10p by the end of Jan by the looks of it

Fred1new - 19 Dec 2005 13:46 - 13835 of 27111

Treble wide. what price are you hoping to buy SEO at?

blinger - 19 Dec 2005 15:23 - 13836 of 27111

10p soon

lol.

nkirkup - 19 Dec 2005 16:26 - 13837 of 27111

When BPRG news out will be 8p

Treblewide - 19 Dec 2005 16:26 - 13838 of 27111

fred i aint hoping to buy SEO...i will close my short out somewhere below 10pence

Fred1new - 19 Dec 2005 17:15 - 13839 of 27111

TW I will believe it, if or when, I see it.

Mega Bucks - 19 Dec 2005 17:33 - 13840 of 27111

Treb,as you are short,you would have to buy it back to close out surely !!!! so you would be buying SEO :-)

Treblewide - 19 Dec 2005 18:31 - 13841 of 27111

Mega i mere technicality old bean :-)

explosive - 19 Dec 2005 19:12 - 13842 of 27111

Expecting a Xmas fall so Stop Loss set at 14.1....

blinger - 19 Dec 2005 19:43 - 13843 of 27111

<14pbid tomorrow

bosley - 19 Dec 2005 21:14 - 13844 of 27111

treblewide, sp has found good support at 12p/13p the last couple of times it dropped. why do you think it will drop lower to sub 10p this time?
( just so there is no misunderstanding, i'm not saying i disagree with you, i'm just interested in peoples' reasoning.)

Treblewide - 19 Dec 2005 22:11 - 13845 of 27111

Bosley.....yes it has bounced at that level a few times however the downtrend is very much intact which has governed the chart since March. and if support at 13 breaks then it will move below 10p very quickly.....a downtrend by its very nature (which no one can argue about here) means the share price keeps getting lower...........

simple trading technique is to buy pullbacks on a rising share and sell rallies on a falling share......SEO is falling as even the most blinkered people on here must admit

explosive - 19 Dec 2005 22:21 - 13846 of 27111

I agree I think the sp will fall but yet again I can't see it going <10p. I think 11 to 12 is more realistic as the sp has shown support here before. My stop loss is a simple safe guard to protect profit already made. I will rebuy into SEO at a lower price if my stop loss is triggered. I agree with Shamonas earlier post regarding Greenseal and SEO recovering later in the year. Lets see what happens with Asdas exclusive year deal which if I am correct has around another 3 months to run.

bosley - 19 Dec 2005 23:24 - 13847 of 27111

treblewide, thanks for the reply.
explosive, asda deal has another 7/8 months to go yet.

insiderinside - 20 Dec 2005 08:56 - 13848 of 27111

http://www.fool.co.uk/news/comment/2005/c051219b.htm

a writer with some sense - well done TMF - it shows some do not just get ramped in with the others -



Stanelco Still Has More To Do

By Ed Bowsher (TMFArkle)
December 19, 2005


Stanelco (LSE: SEO) has a huge following on share discussion boards, and it's easy to see why. The company has several eye-catching packaging technologies and a partnership with Asda too.

The problem is that Stanelco is valued at 137m (14.65p share price), yet it only generated revenue of 1.33m in 2004. Stanelco needs some decent growth to justify the current price, and I'm not wholly convinced it will deliver.

Stanelco's best-known technology is Greenseal, which is used for packaging meat and other foods. Normally when you buy some lamb chops in a cling-film container, the plastic wrapping has been sealed in place by heat. Greenseal, by contrast, uses radio frequency (RF). In other words, high frequency radio energy generates lots of molecular agitation so that two materials can weld together.

Stanelco claims that RF sealing is 20% cheaper than using heat and there are fewer leaks. What's more, RF-sealed plastic trays can be recycled, unlike heat-sealed trays.

The company's big deal with Asda was announced in March. Asda said then that it expected its suppliers would convert several hundred machines to RF.

House broker Evolution has estimated that Stanelco could receive an annual licence fee of 25- 30,000 for each machine. Apparently, there are around 50,000 sealing machines in Europe and North America.

If Stanelco persuaded supermarkets and food manufacturers to convert 5,000 of those machines to RF sealing, Stanelco would receive annual revenue of something like 125m a year, perhaps more. Not bad for a company with a 137m market cap.

On top of that, Stanelco is developing several other products and technologies. These include starch-based materials such as a biodegradable cork for a wine bottle.

The company also announced a partnership last week with a US packaging company, Perseco, which has McDonalds (NYSE: MCD) on its customer list.

So why am I not wholly convinced?

It's partly the history of the company. This company has been operating for more than 50 years yet it hasn't had much success. Two years ago, it was convinced that its fortunes had changed thanks to a new technology for encasing pills. But then the company got mired in litigation with Bioprogress (LSE: BPRG) on patents.

Over the last two years, Stanelco has announced a flood of new initiatives which all appear to have great potential. But I can't help wondering whether the company should have concentrated on progressing Greenseal instead of all these new ideas.

After all, the Asda deal has progressed, but not as fast as some had hoped. Even Evolution has cut its forecasts and now expects sales of only 18.2m in 2006.

What's more, Ian Balchin, Stanelco's vice chairman and former CEO, doesn't appear to have been wholly convinced by all the good news. He sold a shed load of shares in the summer of 2004.

Last month, another senior executive exercised his options to buy around 1.1m shares at just under 2p, and then promptly sold half at 14p. If he had real confidence in the business, why didn't he keep more shares?

There have also been lots of boardroom changes, which don't inspire confidence.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Stanelco will definitely fail. It may be a great success in the end. But I'm not tempted to buy now.

insiderinside - 20 Dec 2005 08:57 - 13849 of 27111

yes - very true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



What's more, Ian Balchin, Stanelco's vice chairman and former CEO, doesn't appear to have been wholly convinced by all the good news. He sold a shed load of shares in the summer of 2004.

Last month, another senior executive exercised his options to buy around 1.1m shares at just under 2p, and then promptly sold half at 14p. If he had real confidence in the business, why didn't he keep more shares?

There have also been lots of boardroom changes, which don't inspire confidence.

bhunt1910 - 20 Dec 2005 09:04 - 13850 of 27111

I think we have exhausted the discussion overwhy the options were sold - to actually buy the shares so the he could invest in SEO and pay the tax bil etc etc etc

bhunt1910 - 20 Dec 2005 09:13 - 13851 of 27111

There seems to be a big seller about - every time a chunk of shares comes up at 14.5 - it quickly disappears from the screen.

Frampton - 20 Dec 2005 09:26 - 13852 of 27111

Ian Balchin obviously didn't have much idea of where his company was heading if he sold shed loads in the summer of 2004 - what price did he get? 4p? Directors don't always get it right and sell at the top.

Biscuit - 20 Dec 2005 09:47 - 13853 of 27111

Frampton, You need to do a bit more reserach on the company I'm afraid. He sold them To Andy Brough's Fund at Schroders to raise cash to cover the court case in the short term. If you're going long or short in a company, please do research in it first or you may lose a lot of money!
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