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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

apple - 13 Aug 2004 17:29 - 1388 of 2406

Sounds like utter nonsense to me, many fraud prevention companies & banks have been doing this since way before 1997 so CyberSource have got no chance of winning.

CyberSource wouldn't dare take on a big bank, I suppose they hope RTD will pay them to stop hassling them rather than spend money on lawyers.

Big Al - 13 Aug 2004 17:32 - 1389 of 2406

RTD - Bounce Monday?

http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/articles/200408131720599740B.html

Fundamentalist - 13 Aug 2004 18:05 - 1390 of 2406

RNS as issued:


Retail Decisions plc

Share Price Movement

The Board of Retail Decisions ('ReD'), the fuel card operator and world leader
in card fraud prevention and payment processing, notes the recent movement in
its share price.

The Board is also aware of an action that has been filed in the US by
CyberSource Corporation, one of ReD's competitors. The action alleges a patent
infringement in relation to one of ReD's card fraud screening services,
ebitGuard, which operates in the 'Card Not Present' ('CNP') market.

In the first seven months of the current financial year (to July 2004) ebitGuard
accounted for approximately 3% of ReD's group turnover and considerably less of
its operating profit.

The Board of ReD is investigating CyberSource's claim, but at first glance it
knows of no patent infringement and therefore believes the claim to be without
foundation. If this proves to be the case upon further investigation, ReD will
defend its position vigorously.

petralva - 13 Aug 2004 19:36 - 1391 of 2406

why wait 4 years?

Douggie - 13 Aug 2004 19:40 - 1392 of 2406

well that was THE week that was, great optimism start week positive news, to this, if there is no case to answer much damage has been done how long will it take to regain share price? :o[[

Fred1new - 13 Aug 2004 20:13 - 1393 of 2406

You will have to go on holidays again Douggie. You are looking pale and I am worried.

You muust take longer holidays. :-< )

moneyplus - 13 Aug 2004 21:07 - 1394 of 2406

Let's hope the trading update in Sept?? will give us a boost. The statement today seemed to be reassuring, I'm still hopeful!

overgrowth - 15 Aug 2004 00:03 - 1395 of 2406

Mind you don't get bottled by an early MM markdown on RTD on Monday folks - the price is destined to go storming back up again throughout the rest of the day.

There are tons of big bucks buyers waiting in the wings.

Here's to the :-)))))))'s coming back very soon....

apple - 15 Aug 2004 21:20 - 1396 of 2406

I shall be buying some more, what a bargain.

parveen1 - 15 Aug 2004 21:36 - 1397 of 2406

scotinvestor - 15 Aug 2004 22:23 - 1398 of 2406

it all seems like sort of con to me.

Someone wants RTD to be marked down lots so they can then buy in at ridiculous low price.

Big Al - 15 Aug 2004 22:37 - 1399 of 2406

Personally, I wouldn't put anything on this until things are clearer.

Al
;-)

Tokyo - 16 Aug 2004 08:42 - 1400 of 2406

Remember a few facts.

1. The potential court case by Cybersource may never happen. If it does it will not be for well over a year, and Cybersource may well not win. If they don't then RTD may come out on top due to the malicious timing of Cybersource's action (RTD employed one of their X-staff a matter of days ago). Oh dear, I don't think that will go down very well in a court of law!

2. RTD are doing better now than they ever have done. Until the above hit the fan there was nothing but good news comong from RTD. Look at the RNS announcements.

3. RTD results are in 3 weeks and are expected to be in line with expectations, or perhaps even very good (see RNS announcements).

4. I still expect RTD share price to go North of 18p before the results. Would not surprise me at all if it topped 20p.

I topped up hugely this morning

good luck all

tokyo

rvitler - 16 Aug 2004 09:31 - 1401 of 2406

It's a tiny proportion of sales at 3% of turnover for this product, I have therefore bought heavily!

Fred1new - 16 Aug 2004 09:32 - 1402 of 2406

Tokyo. I agree with what you have written, but I believe the case is before an American court and God doesn't know what they will decide or why they decide in one way or another. I think it will hit about 22p again but whether in September or Decemeber I wouldn't has a guess.

I seem to be holding a few smaller companies with outstanding law spats!!! My solicitor always told me the last person to consult was a lawyer!!

petralva - 16 Aug 2004 09:57 - 1403 of 2406

an upgrade from the broker at

www.saturn.uk.com/dsc_admin/rtd_newsflash_160804.pdf

all over done by the mms.http://www.saturn.uk.com/dsc_admin/rtd_newsflash_160804.pdf

zscrooge - 16 Aug 2004 10:31 - 1404 of 2406

Daniel Stewart

Market Cap 37.8m
Enterprise Value 33.6m
Shares in Issue 289.8m
Est Free Float 78.7%
Gearing N/A
Net Cash (Debt) 4.2m
Next Results Interims Sep 04

Research
David Johnson
020 7847 0399
david.johnson@danielstewart.co.uk
Roger Tejwani
020 7847 0380
roger.tejwani@danielstewart.co.uk
James Hollins
020 7847 0386
james.hollins@danielstewart.co.uk
Sales
Tom Jenkins
020 7847 0370
tom.jenkins@danielstewart.co.uk
Daniel Willmott
020 7847 0364
daniel.willmott@danielstewart.co.uk


Retail Decisions (RTD.L), the fully integrated risk management solutions and payment processing provider, on Friday announced that an action has been filed in the US by CyberSource Corporation (Nasdaq: CYBS), a competitor in the Card Not Present (CNP) market, alleging patent infringement by Retail Decisions ebitGuard product. As a result of the news, the stock dropped 23% to 13p on Friday.

The board of Retail Decisions is currently investigating CyberSources claim but is aware of no patent infringement and believes the claim is without foundation at this stage. If this proves to be the
case upon further investigation, Retail Decisions plans to defend its position rigorously.

ebitGuard currently represents a small percentage of total revenues around 3% in the first seven months of FY04 but is demonstrating strong growth and CNP represents a key area of future growth for the company. We expect revenues for the current year of around $2m from this source, double FY03s performance. More than 40 new merchants were signed up to CNP services in H1
and recent customer wins include Odimo Inc (owner of Ashford.com, Diamond.com and WorldofWatches.com).

The patent Method and System for Detecting Fraud in a Credit Card Transaction over the Internet was applied for by CyberSource in July 1997 and issued in February 2000. ebitGuard, an extension of Retail Decisions CNP telephony fraud prevention service in the US, was also launched in 2000.
Given the length of time that both ebitGuard and the patent have been in existence, it seems surprising that CyberSource has only now chosen to try to enforce its patent.

We also note that Retail Decisions appointed Phaedra Saylor as Director of Business Development in August. Ms Saylor was previously Senior Account Manager Channel Sales for CyberSource.
We are leaving forecasts unchanged at this stage as we await a better understanding of the patent position. On this basis, Retail Decisions is currently trading on a forward annualised P/E of 10.0x for
FY04, falling to 8.9x in FY05 and 8.0x in FY06 a significant discount to the Software and Services sector. With a profitable, cash generative, scaleable business model and a strong position in
a high growth market, we consider that there is considerable upside to the current share price but believe there will be some volatility until the patent issue has been resolved. We retain our BUY recommendation.


EPS** EV/EBITDA PER DPS
December m m m P X X p
2003 A 30.4 5.6 7.2 1.38 5.1 10.2 -
2004 E 32.0 6.0 7.6 1.40 4.8 10.0 -
2005 E 33.4 6.7 8.4 1.58 4.5 8.9 -
2006 E 35.6 7.5 8.9 1.75 4.1 8.0 -
* pre amortisation and exceptional items
**fully diluted pre amortisation and exceptional items

Tokyo - 16 Aug 2004 14:05 - 1405 of 2406

the shorters have had their fun with this one, lets hope for a steady rise back to 17 pence and then north from there. Not expecting any more news from RTD this week, but remain hopeful they can squash this soon

scotinvestor - 16 Aug 2004 19:12 - 1406 of 2406

this share has more than halved from 28p down to 13p on no reason whatsoever apart from shorters and MMs playing games.

How much more damage do they wanna do?
Do these people want to bankrupt every small company on stock exchange. I noted last week an article on inteernet about uk being worst performing stock market in whole of the world these days. Even Spain, Australia, Germany (and of course USA) are doing much better.

I'm so disillusioned living in this country these days

Fred1new - 16 Aug 2004 20:15 - 1407 of 2406

I don't see why halving the price of a share will bankrupt a company. I see that it is more likely to lead to a company buy at a lower price. But I wonder what proportion of money is going into "betting" on the market rather than purchasing shares. It may be reasonable to introduce "stamp or tax" duty of some of these dealings. This may reduce the volatility and profit longer term holdings.

I do understand hedging can be used sensibly as a form of insurance against market drops etc..
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