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Traders Thread - Friday 21st May (LLOY)
Crocodile - 20 May 2004 21:10
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U.S stocks failed to find direction with some weaker than expected earnings and economic news, the continued high price of oil and Friday's monthly options expiration. Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries reported a 5.3% inline rise in half-year profits of 31.7m and added that current trading was in line with expectations. Cadbury Schweppes said it was cautiously optimistic about the outcome for its full year and expected to deliver results within its target ranges, However its costs have risen faster than inflation. Hilton Group said that profits for the first four months of the year had doubled, as the hotel sector continues to recover from last year's slump. Tomkins engineering posted higher profits of 69 million pounds above expectations, and said key markets improved in the period as its three-year restructuring plan showed results. |
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bosley
- 21 May 2004 08:51
- 14 of 35
just looked at % gainers and losers for today and its very confusing.
Fundamentalist
- 21 May 2004 08:53
- 15 of 35
Morning all
thanks croc, nice to see TP again
thanks croc, nice to see TP again
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 21 May 2004 08:57
- 16 of 35
bosley,
There would appear to be an error somewhere with this - we are investigating.
Ian
There would appear to be an error somewhere with this - we are investigating.
Ian
ThePlayboy
- 21 May 2004 09:09
- 17 of 35
to see you nice, hope your having a good week Fundamentalist, not too good for me this week!
little woman
- 21 May 2004 09:23
- 18 of 35
orky, you'll find the full time traders over in the traders room
Please everyone correct me if I'm wrong, but we are mostly investors who like to trade from time to time. (Some more than others!)
Please everyone correct me if I'm wrong, but we are mostly investors who like to trade from time to time. (Some more than others!)
Fundamentalist
- 21 May 2004 10:22
- 19 of 35
TP
This week has bucked my recent trend and been very good to me, mainly due to the large rises in SKP earlier in the week. See the rumours are back that ROK Property are looking to take over Galliford Try again, can only be good for the GFRD price short term.
This week has bucked my recent trend and been very good to me, mainly due to the large rises in SKP earlier in the week. See the rumours are back that ROK Property are looking to take over Galliford Try again, can only be good for the GFRD price short term.
amberjane
- 21 May 2004 11:25
- 20 of 35
LW. "Some more than others" - guess thats you then, arent you nearly 'full time' with all this day trading youre doing now? Own up, how many trades this month? Notice u said been in & out of shel and cyh a few times?
Regards, Amber
ps. got my first divi this morning, Bovis. Normally I'm either not in a share long enough or the company doesnt have divis??? Nice suprise shame its only small investment.
Regards, Amber
ps. got my first divi this morning, Bovis. Normally I'm either not in a share long enough or the company doesnt have divis??? Nice suprise shame its only small investment.
little woman
- 21 May 2004 13:05
- 21 of 35
ahhhhhhhhh, but I have days when I don't do any trading at all (although lately they are fewer) - & the trading only provides the little extras in life, so I have to work occassionally to pay the bills.
little woman
- 21 May 2004 14:49
- 22 of 35
Another quiet afternoon in here again. Doesn't look like the dow wants to break 10000 again.
stockbunny
- 21 May 2004 15:08
- 23 of 35
Ah but don't you find sometimes this is more enjoyable than the working
bit LW (lol) unless of course its a day like yesterday when it was nice to
forget it and do some real work instead.
How's your golf going? and did you wash the offending mess off your car?
It looks good today, reasonable proportion of blue around and the DOW
also looks positive - fingers crossed....
bit LW (lol) unless of course its a day like yesterday when it was nice to
forget it and do some real work instead.
How's your golf going? and did you wash the offending mess off your car?
It looks good today, reasonable proportion of blue around and the DOW
also looks positive - fingers crossed....
little woman
- 21 May 2004 15:32
- 24 of 35
No I didn't wash my car, but it started raining heavily when I was on the 10th. So I gave up, as I don't like playing in the rain, and the car got a rinse!
Errrrr the dow & ftse are heading south - and hour left until UK close. A lot can happen 60 min.
Errrrr the dow & ftse are heading south - and hour left until UK close. A lot can happen 60 min.
stockbunny
- 21 May 2004 15:53
- 25 of 35
Yes I spoke too soon, it looked quite good there for a while
although nothing spectacular most are holding minro gains,
a day for being thankful for small mercies I suppose.....
although nothing spectacular most are holding minro gains,
a day for being thankful for small mercies I suppose.....
stockbunny
- 21 May 2004 15:53
- 26 of 35
Yes I spoke too soon, it looked quite good there for a while
although nothing spectacular most are holding minor gains,
a day for being thankful for small mercies I suppose.....
although nothing spectacular most are holding minor gains,
a day for being thankful for small mercies I suppose.....
little woman
- 21 May 2004 15:57
- 27 of 35
Mayby not! Heading north again! Dow needs to break 10,000 and stay above it for the FTSE to do anything. But even if it does, chances are the FTSE will start down on Monday, as the presumption that the DOW won't hold etc. etc.
stockbunny
- 21 May 2004 16:05
- 28 of 35
Personal opinion only, but I get the feeling a lot of people on the
markets need to calm down a bit and have needed to for the last week
or so. OK so US interest rates could go up, but they couldn't stay
at 1% for ever and I can't believe the US economy would come crashing
down on a rate increase, plus the price of oil has been high before
and it drops just as fast as it goes up, again hardly likely to send
all reality crashing to the floor!
Seems since the crash in 2000, people are scared quickly these days and
profit take instantly on the slightest thing as if the end-is-nigh...
The yo-yoing across the world these last couple of weeks has been
amazing - up 100+, down 100+ it seems panic driven at times....
markets need to calm down a bit and have needed to for the last week
or so. OK so US interest rates could go up, but they couldn't stay
at 1% for ever and I can't believe the US economy would come crashing
down on a rate increase, plus the price of oil has been high before
and it drops just as fast as it goes up, again hardly likely to send
all reality crashing to the floor!
Seems since the crash in 2000, people are scared quickly these days and
profit take instantly on the slightest thing as if the end-is-nigh...
The yo-yoing across the world these last couple of weeks has been
amazing - up 100+, down 100+ it seems panic driven at times....
optomistic
- 21 May 2004 16:29
- 29 of 35
Stockbunny, thanks for that bit of practical enlightenment. Anything you like in the Tea Room, on me :-))
stockbunny
- 21 May 2004 16:35
- 30 of 35
Sorry had to have a 'put the world to rights' moment!
So this is where you've been hiding this afternoon,
hope it's been a good day and be lucky!!
So this is where you've been hiding this afternoon,
hope it's been a good day and be lucky!!
optomistic
- 21 May 2004 16:42
- 31 of 35
You bunnies take some keeping up with!! see you over there.
stockbunny
- 21 May 2004 16:45
- 32 of 35
OK so who's chasing who here....
(runs out back to the tea-rooms...)))
(runs out back to the tea-rooms...)))
ThePlayboy
- 21 May 2004 16:58
- 33 of 35
MONDAYS FTSE PP
R2 4472
R1 4452
PP 4433
S1 4413
S2 4394
Ftse closed below its pp on fri and gained 1.3pts in the auction, closed right on the line of the down trend off Fri high, pos break up at 33 and pp confrimes it for Monday, if not cont weakness, down yet again need to close above 10k for pos strength to 10100 imho!
R2 4472
R1 4452
PP 4433
S1 4413
S2 4394
Ftse closed below its pp on fri and gained 1.3pts in the auction, closed right on the line of the down trend off Fri high, pos break up at 33 and pp confrimes it for Monday, if not cont weakness, down yet again need to close above 10k for pos strength to 10100 imho!
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