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Dubious sell-off     

ellio - 15 May 2006 09:10

The market seems to be selling-off on the back of limited bad news imo, apart from the dollar that is.

If you can hold your nerve and apart from any short term requirements to offload poor performing stocks, I have a couple!!, my advice would be sit tight. This does not have the feel of the tech(mining!) bubble at all. Difference being there are a lot of good fundamentals, unlike in 2000 when there were a lot of over rated nothing companies.

goldfinger - 22 May 2006 12:04 - 141 of 1564

Certainly hitting momentum investors a lot harder than long term investors like myself and otheres here. Some long termers will sell out and take profits, Im holding as Ive been through situations like this before and if it does turn out to be a Bear of course there will be a spike downwards in the chart but the longterm trend will be up. (if you hold strong decent stock)

Glad I didnt get sucked into the Commodity and Oil sectors, carnage going on at the moment. A lot of investors will be lost forever to the markets which isnt a good thing as we in this country in general dont invest or save as much as the likes of the US or Germans.

The markets these days seem to be dominated by gamblers with a TA chart guide and a cfd or SB account looking for a quick fix.

Dont really know the answer as to how to rectify this, does anyone?.

jimmy b - 22 May 2006 13:44 - 142 of 1564

Can't believe some of the oiler's ,,were they really that overvalued ?? luckily i wasn't in much when this started ,i'm out now and staying out until we have some clear direction ,the problem may be when this ends ,we go sideways .

Strawbs - 22 May 2006 14:51 - 143 of 1564

I suspect in the euphoria of rising prices, a number of stocks will have been overpriced. At the end of the day, it's only worth what somebody's willing to pay for it though. If the price looks like it will keep on rising (as many have since the start of the year), then people will happily keep paying more, regardless of whether any fundamentals have truely changed. Of course, that ultimately skews the value of a stock, and makes it harder to judge where true value lies. When momentum switches the other way, the reaction will be overdone in the opposite direction. We won't know which stocks are fairly valued until the dust settles, and the price chasers have been scared out of the market.

Strawbs.

jimmy b - 22 May 2006 15:09 - 144 of 1564

Yes and by the look of it there may be some bargains to be had .
Dow sliding again .

skyhigh - 22 May 2006 15:12 - 145 of 1564

The only thing is... you get into the bargains in this type of market and.. they fall as well !

soul traders - 22 May 2006 15:14 - 146 of 1564

There has been so much carnage on my portfolio that blood is beginning to leak out of my monitor! Happy to hold at current levels as I have made safe some profits and will re-invest when things appear to have settled. Lots of potential bargains exist based on fundamentals and near-term prospects, IMO.

Strawbs - 22 May 2006 15:18 - 147 of 1564

That also worries me. I know people that have seen this correction (or whatever you want to call it), and are thinking of closing ISA's to get spare cash to buy "bargains". Great if you can pick the true bargains, but pretty suicidal if you can't. I think some people just get infected by the "can't loose" mentality, and forget the little "shares can go down" disclaimer on the tin.

Strawbs.

jimmy b - 22 May 2006 15:21 - 148 of 1564

I agree Strawbs , i won't be looking until the dust settles ,i don't think anyone knows where this is going next.

soul traders - 22 May 2006 15:25 - 149 of 1564

Panic is a wonderful thing . . . (that's meant ironically, in case it's not coming across as such).

As I think I said last week, part of the game is good stockpicking and part of it is about anticipating the crowd. No prizes for guessing where we're at at the moment.

skyhigh - 22 May 2006 15:26 - 150 of 1564

Ouch! What's happening now is downright cruel... look at VOG, HDD and a few others..there's no need for it.!

Strawbs - 22 May 2006 15:30 - 151 of 1564

People still buying though......

Strawbs.

soul traders - 22 May 2006 15:30 - 152 of 1564

I'm still in VOG - cut my holding by 40% last week though! I shot HDD out of the door a month or two ago; it's another one whose SP could be headed for bargain territory.

Agreed that it's a bit brutal. Welcome to the FTSE white-knuckle ride :o)

cynic - 22 May 2006 15:45 - 153 of 1564

If VOG makes you cry (me too!), have a look at what has happened to other good quality stocks such as POG and CSR

Strawbs - 22 May 2006 15:50 - 154 of 1564

I doubt if it's over yet. I would be very very cautious of any rally later in the week. Looking at my old portfolio, I'd be thinking some of these stocks are bargains now, but if others have been trapped by the speed of the fall, they could be selling into any rally when it comes. I'm pretty sure the herd mentality is kicking in now, and it'll take some stability before anyone can be sure of the prices being offered.

Strawbs.

soul traders - 22 May 2006 16:11 - 155 of 1564

Strawbs, I agree, am more likely to wait through the summer (hope I remember this when impatience tries to get the better of me!).

Some of the purchases could just be short covering, or people who have plenty of spare fingers and like catching falling knives, juggling chainsaws, etc.

Cynic, not crying, (yet!) more like anticipating another bite at some very cheap cherries :o)

cynic - 22 May 2006 16:22 - 156 of 1564

I was pretty sanguine first thing this morning even after seeing the opening prices ..... Now just bloody

Strawbs - 22 May 2006 16:26 - 157 of 1564

Soul traders,

I know that impatient feeling. That's another thing I remember from the tech crash. The number of people who fell in love with there stocks and couldn't except the size of the falls, thinking it another buying oppertunity.

Strawbs.

cynic - 22 May 2006 16:38 - 158 of 1564

Tempting as it may be take a position either long or short, best course of action has to be to do nothing ..... A&L was perhaps an interesting example today ..... Up by about 130 with the RNS (rather non-committal actually) and finishes up only 26.

soul traders - 22 May 2006 16:42 - 159 of 1564

Strawbs, got to chuckle; I bought a fund (ISA) in the very last days of the tech bubble, went away on holiday for 12 days and when I came back it had burst and I was 26% down. I eventually sold six months later for a loss of 42%. A year or three ago I had a look and it was worth 15% of what I paid for it.

Now they don't even publish the figures for the fund I bought (I have a feeling the fund manager may have been dragged down to the Thames and sent to sleep with the fishes).

And these days I do all my investment management myself.

soul traders - 22 May 2006 16:44 - 160 of 1564

Agreed, Cynic (see, I told you we were gradually converging!). Let the others do the headless-chicken dance; good things will come to him who waits.
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