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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


nicksig - 16 Jan 2006 12:27 - 14150 of 27111

Baza - what price you looking to sell at?

bhunt1910 - 16 Jan 2006 12:33 - 14151 of 27111

Long Term - 1 + - but not for another couple of years or so

Why? - does it sound like I am ramping - apologies if I am - just fascinated by what is going on - all of which was opposite wo what I expected

Baza

nicksig - 16 Jan 2006 12:35 - 14152 of 27111

No, not at all. Just wondered what your price target was. I'm also pleasantly surprised by the trades going through this morning. Do you have any further details on how the cc will proceed from here?

bhunt1910 - 16 Jan 2006 12:45 - 14153 of 27111

No I am afraid I am not an expert on these things. There has been quite a lot of discussion on the cc on the ADVFN thread - but also quite a lot of stupid comment. Might be worth a visit there to get more background.

Just borrrowd this from a poster over there
"the litigation relates to events which took place in the late nineteen nineties, and and centres on the entitlement to three families of patents, the court originally found that ONE of the families belonged to BPRG, and Two of the families were found to belong to SEO, , However in the light of further evidence that has been identified since the original hearing, and on the basis of legal advice recieved, stanelco believes that it will be able to continue to pursue this area of technology. stanelco seeks leave to appeal."

It could all be over today - or it could take days - and apparantly an oocs could occur at any stage in the proceedings right up2 to final judgement

hewittalan6 - 16 Jan 2006 12:46 - 14154 of 27111

Nicksig
For what its worth, I don't have a clue what price target I am aiming at! This is a very unusual situaution for me and I realise that it gives loads of ammo to our resident Lord Haw-Haw. The reason is, I consider it a blue sky investment. Putting a value on it is a tremendously difficult thing to do, when the potential is for anything between a few machines in Asda, and nothing else, or a name to rival Tetrapak!!
This means I am just holding, watching and continually reassessing the potential worth. I am no ramper, and accept that it is a risky investment, but the upside is huge, so thats the odds fixed.
I am investing more on a timescale basis of about 4-5 years, but with a stop loss in place and a keen eye on developments.
BTW, as it stands I do agree with Baza refernce 1+, but not for a couple of years. 5 years COULD see considerably more.
Alan

nicksig - 16 Jan 2006 12:51 - 14155 of 27111

Hi. Thanks for your posts. I just wondered as I've never come across a stock deramped as fiercely as SEO. I've given up on ADVFN - there were posts there yesterday that claimed the sp would be below 12p today. Aargh...some people need to get a life!

hewittalan6 - 16 Jan 2006 12:54 - 14156 of 27111

Bloody amateurs. On here they reckon 2p

greekman - 16 Jan 2006 13:23 - 14157 of 27111

Alan,
Re your post of 1246hrs today. Very sensible outlook,well said.
As to ADVFN, I have given up on that site as it is full ( almost ) of children,slagging each other off.
Don't usually try to predict a price but,my own slant on the CC outcome for what it's worth,is that if SEO have to pay damages of 1 to 2 mill, the sp will hardly be effected. If more than 2 mill the sp will float down wards respectively.
If SEO win the appeal I expect a rise of about 2 to 3p in the short term.

bhunt1910 - 16 Jan 2006 14:39 - 14158 of 27111

Just tried to buy some seo on line - but online dealing suspended via BSL - anyone else have the same problem ??

blinger - 16 Jan 2006 16:30 - 14159 of 27111

Another day in court tomorrow, watch out for 10.30 am

bhunt1910 - 16 Jan 2006 16:34 - 14160 of 27111

Now was that a 1m buy or a delayed 1m sell ??

nicksig - 16 Jan 2006 16:34 - 14161 of 27111

1m trade in at 16.30. Marked as buy. Do you think this is right? If so, what confidence...

nicksig - 16 Jan 2006 16:35 - 14162 of 27111

And accompanied by a 1,750,000 trade at same price marked on my system as a sell. Any thoughts?

hewittalan6 - 16 Jan 2006 16:48 - 14163 of 27111

Both trades are marked as O trades so they shouldn't be delayed in reporting at all.
The 1.75 million was part of the auction, so God alone knows what that might be.
Tomorrow morning might tell us, if the price opens up or down.
No doubt the enlightened SEO shafters who encourage us to short will have their explanation for these trades as some kind of devious plot by the other shorters to make even more money from us.
I give up.
Alan

greekman - 16 Jan 2006 16:53 - 14164 of 27111

There can be no doubt that there are several persons at least who have followed this case within the court today.
With the large buys of SEO that have come through and a closing price of .25p up. ( BPRG negative volume and a closing price of .25p down ) this presumably means that the result at the present level of proceedings looks like an outcome that may benefit SEO without having a serious effect on BPRG. As has been said many times, when this CC is over both companies can concentrate on the future. The next few days will tell.

No doubt from now till next am, there will be several persons who will state they have been in court today and that SEO/BPRG are the outright winners.
The truth is no one knows.

jimward9 - 16 Jan 2006 17:40 - 14165 of 27111

alan
other sells were lower than 16p just before.
TDWaterhouse, has them both as buys.

blinger - 16 Jan 2006 17:58 - 14166 of 27111

they were 2.7m delayed sells, tin hats on tomorrow.

bhunt1910 - 16 Jan 2006 18:03 - 14167 of 27111

courtreporter - 16 Jan'06 - 17:57 - 57240 of 57240
copied from elsewhere


Court 74 11 until 4

Talks all weekend to reach settlement

Started with further talks in seperate room

No agreement reached

Stanelco appealing patent ownership, breach and prior art evidence application

Mlller went first dealing in the above order in his hesitating style

Discussion around capsule definition, unlikely to include sachets, based upon how formed

Core inventive concept challenged on grounds of how rather than idea of

Judges advocate settlement, mention of several years of litigation

Miller continues Tue

Impossible to call it at this stage

Will post on both threads to assist debate

I hope we settle with Stanelco to avoid this dragging on and on as it is more important to us than it is them in terms of core business.

blinger - 16 Jan 2006 18:07 - 14168 of 27111

How many aliases do these rampers? have this is dreadful!+pond 1/cherryb etc.etc.

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There can be no doubt that there are several persons at least who have followed this case within the court today.
With the large buys of SEO that have come through and a closing price of .25p up. ( BPRG negative volume and a closing price of .25p down ) this presumably means that the result at the present level of proceedings looks like an outcome that may benefit SEO without having a serious effect on BPRG. As has been said many times, when this CC is over both companies can concentrate on the future. The next few days will tell.


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nicksig - 16 Jan 2006 18:41 - 14169 of 27111

Blinger: As far as I can see it is impossible to tell whether the final trades are buys or sells. If they were reported an hour late the change in the sp at 16.07 makes no sense - it would have come earlier and would have been a more dramatic shift. To say they are both delayed sells is reckless and without ground. If you want to influence the sp negatively to go short you'll have to try hard than that.
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