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new millennium resources (NML)     

LEEWINK - 28 Mar 2004 15:45

NML is due its interrim results now, last year it was the 28th of this month.

They are setting up a new site to explore/research/analyse and all the equipment to do this should be on site now, and drilling should start soon, all this extra news should be covered in the interims.

does anyone have any further positive views on this company ??

Andy - 02 Feb 2005 10:45 - 142 of 1909

aldwick,

Thanks, trying to add sme balance.

Andy - 02 Feb 2005 11:23 - 143 of 1909

Dynamite,

They don't have to "give" Endiama 5000 carats, simply produce them in one parcel to prove their competancy as miners. Currently, all diamonds recovered to date are stored in a dual key controlled safe, one key held by NML, the other by Endiama.

NML currently do not have a mining permit, and need to complete this initial parcel before they can obtain it, and commence revenue generating mining. Endiama are controlled by the Angolan Government, who issue the mining permits.

Once they have done this, NML will be able to sell this parcel and gain the revenue generated by it, of which 54% pertains to NML. As I understand it, they cannot sell any of this parcel until it is complete.

5000 carats may seem like "nothing", but they have yet to complete the parcel, and have been onsite since mid September, although this period includes site construction. During this time they have been trenching and sampling, and have announced some decent stones, but not their progress so far.

By NML's own admission, they have underestimated the weather, and this monsoon type rain has hindered their progress so far, and is referred to in the latest RNS, where they state mining is due to commence in March, "weather permitting".

With regard to resources indicated and inferred, I would refer you to the table link below, which is from NML's own website, and in particular at the "risk" values shown.

http://www.new-millennium.com.au/ang_resources.php

Dynamite - 02 Feb 2005 11:33 - 144 of 1909

Andy...There isn't any table showing, perhaps you can try again.
I would love to know how much of the 5000 cartas they have found so far.
Thanks for your imput.
Di

aldwickk - 02 Feb 2005 11:40 - 145 of 1909

It will be interesting to see what happens to the share price once they have the 5000 carats.

Dynamite - 02 Feb 2005 11:42 - 146 of 1909

Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooosh I should think

stockdog - 02 Feb 2005 11:52 - 147 of 1909

stockdog - 02 Feb 2005 11:52 - 148 of 1909

Sort of carat and stick approach you might say!

aldwickk - 02 Feb 2005 11:53 - 149 of 1909

LOL

aldwickk - 02 Feb 2005 11:55 - 150 of 1909

Dynamite.

There is a post for you on the NOP thread.

Dynamite - 02 Feb 2005 11:57 - 151 of 1909

Aldwick there's a post for you on NOP now :-)

stockdog - 02 Feb 2005 12:42 - 152 of 1909

Hi folks,

Would love your input on a new thread I've just started on FDC.

Thanks, in anticipation of learned response.

Andy - 02 Feb 2005 12:51 - 153 of 1909

Dynmite,

Sorry table not working for some reason.

Cut and paste this link into your brower, the table is at the bottom of the page;

http://www.new-millennium.com.au/ang_resources.php

Dynamite - 02 Feb 2005 13:24 - 154 of 1909

Andy,

Very interesting; although in some areas NML are only looking at 20% success rate they are looking at huge profits and of course their success rates are very conservative so the profits could well be higher. They are looking at profits of 300m US $. The sooner mining starts the better.
Di

Andy - 02 Feb 2005 13:47 - 155 of 1909

Dynamite,

Yes we have to hope that the commencement of mining date doesn't "slip" yet again!

A poster on ADVFN actually states that the WORST of the rains are in March and April, which is of some concern, given that they are waiting for the weather to abate before starting!

I am not convinced they wil be able to start in March, and they have to work up to full production, so I think April or May will be the earliest time they will complete the 5000 carat parcel, in my personal opinion.

Another possible longer term concern is that if they couldn't overcome the weather and mine from Sep 2004 to, say March 2005, how will they fare next year?


I'm not sure how much you have studied NML, but only 54% of the revenue pertains to NML!

And that figure reduces to 34% in the future (3 years I believe) as soon as capex is dealt with, so not all the numbers you see are indicative of possible future actual revenue.

And there are deductions for costs, taxes, labour, etc etc

Dynamite - 02 Feb 2005 13:54 - 156 of 1909

Andy,

I don't take that much notice of teh stuff they say on ADFVN as they spend most of their time slagging everything/one off.

I had realised that only 54% of revenue goes to NML...they are very up front about this on their webiste. Do you hold any shares in NML yourself Andy?
Di

Andy - 02 Feb 2005 15:17 - 157 of 1909

Dynamite,

On the contrary, amongst the dross there's some very well informed opinion on the ADVFN thread, IMHO.

There are some large holders there, and most of the regulars, such as myself, attended the NML presentation in London in November 2004, so have met and talked to the management at first hand.

I would say that there's a wealth of knowledge on that thread, and both bulls and bears make some quite pertinent posts on NML.

EWRobson - 02 Feb 2005 15:51 - 158 of 1909

Interesting posts today. Helpful to have the 'voice of caution' from Andy. There are reasons for caution: slow performance to-date; rainy seasons; the 5000 carat hurdle; subsequent sectors unproven. Against that you have: first sector of concession 100% proven with the professionals estimating on the low side; equipment for production mining being put in place; professional opinion on output of subsequent sectors. None of the negatives appear to be that serious. If you compare this situation with others in the exploration and mining industry, its a pretty good hand. Its easy to argue that something is unproven; what the professionals are quoting is a probability of success on each area. As a mathematician I multiply the 'expected profit' by 'probability of success' and I get $100m plus. If I assume the Rio Lapa targets only, I have $100m. But, you say, what about the political angle? the Angolan government benefit from the success of NML. I suspect this is the reason for getting on with the production before they have proved the other sectors. The reason we are told for the disappointment with the trading report was that these figures weren't proven, i.e NML had gone on to production in the first sector rather than spending more time proving the future. But they don't need to do that immediately because they have $20m expected profit from the first sector against a cap. of 7M ($13M). You come across, Andy, as going out of your way to prove a negative point when you say that, of course, there are various other costs to be taken into account before you gain any pbt, whereas the $20m quoted is the 'expected profit' which has already taken this into account. The website comes over as professionally sound. Mind, I am happy that there are these negative voices around, because otherwise we would never be able to get in at the current price!

Eric

Dynamite - 02 Feb 2005 16:04 - 159 of 1909

Eric,

Here, Here- a good post and you are right, if the going was all plain sailing the shares would cost us more than 5p.It certainly sounds as though there are lots of diamonds to be able to measure how much of a carat is in 1 cubit metre is brilliant; that is not alot of soil, dirt sand or whatever to go through to get more than 1/2 a carat on average.
Andy...You did not say ..Do you actually have any NML shares.

Di

aldwickk - 02 Feb 2005 17:06 - 160 of 1909

What they should do is build a sort of New Millennium dome to keep out the rain. LOL

Dynamite - 02 Feb 2005 17:41 - 161 of 1909

very good Aldwick...but then the NM dome has become an embarrassment and huge drain on resources.
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