LEEWINK
- 28 Mar 2004 15:45
NML is due its interrim results now, last year it was the 28th of this month.
They are setting up a new site to explore/research/analyse and all the equipment to do this should be on site now, and drilling should start soon, all this extra news should be covered in the interims.
does anyone have any further positive views on this company ??
Andy
- 02 Feb 2005 11:23
- 143 of 1909
Dynamite,
They don't have to "give" Endiama 5000 carats, simply produce them in one parcel to prove their competancy as miners. Currently, all diamonds recovered to date are stored in a dual key controlled safe, one key held by NML, the other by Endiama.
NML currently do not have a mining permit, and need to complete this initial parcel before they can obtain it, and commence revenue generating mining. Endiama are controlled by the Angolan Government, who issue the mining permits.
Once they have done this, NML will be able to sell this parcel and gain the revenue generated by it, of which 54% pertains to NML. As I understand it, they cannot sell any of this parcel until it is complete.
5000 carats may seem like "nothing", but they have yet to complete the parcel, and have been onsite since mid September, although this period includes site construction. During this time they have been trenching and sampling, and have announced some decent stones, but not their progress so far.
By NML's own admission, they have underestimated the weather, and this monsoon type rain has hindered their progress so far, and is referred to in the latest RNS, where they state mining is due to commence in March, "weather permitting".
With regard to resources indicated and inferred, I would refer you to the table link below, which is from NML's own website, and in particular at the "risk" values shown.
http://www.new-millennium.com.au/ang_resources.php
aldwickk
- 02 Feb 2005 11:40
- 145 of 1909
It will be interesting to see what happens to the share price once they have the 5000 carats.
stockdog
- 02 Feb 2005 11:52
- 147 of 1909
stockdog
- 02 Feb 2005 11:52
- 148 of 1909
Sort of carat and stick approach you might say!
aldwickk
- 02 Feb 2005 11:53
- 149 of 1909
LOL
aldwickk
- 02 Feb 2005 11:55
- 150 of 1909
Dynamite.
There is a post for you on the NOP thread.
stockdog
- 02 Feb 2005 12:42
- 152 of 1909
Hi folks,
Would love your input on a new thread I've just started on FDC.
Thanks, in anticipation of learned response.
Andy
- 02 Feb 2005 12:51
- 153 of 1909
Dynmite,
Sorry table not working for some reason.
Cut and paste this link into your brower, the table is at the bottom of the page;
http://www.new-millennium.com.au/ang_resources.php
Andy
- 02 Feb 2005 13:47
- 155 of 1909
Dynamite,
Yes we have to hope that the commencement of mining date doesn't "slip" yet again!
A poster on ADVFN actually states that the WORST of the rains are in March and April, which is of some concern, given that they are waiting for the weather to abate before starting!
I am not convinced they wil be able to start in March, and they have to work up to full production, so I think April or May will be the earliest time they will complete the 5000 carat parcel, in my personal opinion.
Another possible longer term concern is that if they couldn't overcome the weather and mine from Sep 2004 to, say March 2005, how will they fare next year?
I'm not sure how much you have studied NML, but only 54% of the revenue pertains to NML!
And that figure reduces to 34% in the future (3 years I believe) as soon as capex is dealt with, so not all the numbers you see are indicative of possible future actual revenue.
And there are deductions for costs, taxes, labour, etc etc
Andy
- 02 Feb 2005 15:17
- 157 of 1909
Dynamite,
On the contrary, amongst the dross there's some very well informed opinion on the ADVFN thread, IMHO.
There are some large holders there, and most of the regulars, such as myself, attended the NML presentation in London in November 2004, so have met and talked to the management at first hand.
I would say that there's a wealth of knowledge on that thread, and both bulls and bears make some quite pertinent posts on NML.
EWRobson
- 02 Feb 2005 15:51
- 158 of 1909
Interesting posts today. Helpful to have the 'voice of caution' from Andy. There are reasons for caution: slow performance to-date; rainy seasons; the 5000 carat hurdle; subsequent sectors unproven. Against that you have: first sector of concession 100% proven with the professionals estimating on the low side; equipment for production mining being put in place; professional opinion on output of subsequent sectors. None of the negatives appear to be that serious. If you compare this situation with others in the exploration and mining industry, its a pretty good hand. Its easy to argue that something is unproven; what the professionals are quoting is a probability of success on each area. As a mathematician I multiply the 'expected profit' by 'probability of success' and I get $100m plus. If I assume the Rio Lapa targets only, I have $100m. But, you say, what about the political angle? the Angolan government benefit from the success of NML. I suspect this is the reason for getting on with the production before they have proved the other sectors. The reason we are told for the disappointment with the trading report was that these figures weren't proven, i.e NML had gone on to production in the first sector rather than spending more time proving the future. But they don't need to do that immediately because they have $20m expected profit from the first sector against a cap. of 7M ($13M). You come across, Andy, as going out of your way to prove a negative point when you say that, of course, there are various other costs to be taken into account before you gain any pbt, whereas the $20m quoted is the 'expected profit' which has already taken this into account. The website comes over as professionally sound. Mind, I am happy that there are these negative voices around, because otherwise we would never be able to get in at the current price!
Eric
aldwickk
- 02 Feb 2005 17:06
- 160 of 1909
What they should do is build a sort of New Millennium dome to keep out the rain. LOL
Andy
- 02 Feb 2005 18:41
- 162 of 1909
ewrobson,
I have posted some comments to try and provide some background and information regarding NML, as a lot of the posts on here were of the "this stocks's going to rocket" type of comment without any real supporting information to justify the claim.
I have followed NML for nearly a year, and attended the London preentation evening and met the directors at the wine bar afterwards, so feel I have something to contribute to any discussion regarding this share.
To say I am "going out of my way to be negative" seems to be attempting to deny discussion on the BB, as IMHO, on a BB, just like in the real market, there have to be both bears and bulls for it to function.
I think you will find that you can "get in at the current price" not because of a few "negative voices", on the BB's, but because that is the valuation the market attributes to NML at this stage.
Another reason may be the large sells that appear whenever there is any demand for the shares, ie selling into strength. This overhang still appears to be there, so I think we are stuck in this range for a while.
I don't think you will find NML have gone on to production, I believe they are still sampling and trenching in areas 2 - 5, having completed number 1. They have to be careful not to cross contaminate, so I don't think they are producing yet.