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Bioprogress (BPRG)     

scorpion - 13 Aug 2003 13:54

Bioprogress is a stock I have been in and out of quite a few times since it floated in May but not much mention here on the Investors' Room. Does anyone else follow this stock. I see it is up 1.5p today and a few good buyers seem to have appeared.

joehargan1 - 18 Nov 2004 17:46 - 1436 of 2372

This can only be very positive and the short term impact was already known. The main thing is that the company has removed any major uncertainty, both commercially and organisationally. Why it took 2 days of extreme volatility to come out is more debatable but overall a comprehensive and hopefully decsisve response.

daves dazzlers - 18 Nov 2004 18:02 - 1437 of 2372

Well i for one are a happy with that,i did not think this bprg was as volatile as this . As to tomorrow where do we go, i will leave that to others.

emailpat - 18 Nov 2004 18:04 - 1438 of 2372

dd-what's fair value? buy buy buy ;-) dyor,nag etc

daves dazzlers - 18 Nov 2004 18:13 - 1439 of 2372

Emp,,real value/future value.It seems to me the people at the top dont know themselves,,lets hope its not a psion in disguise ??

mg - 18 Nov 2004 18:15 - 1440 of 2372

It's gonna be a Frantic Friday - to follow a Thunderous Thursday and a Worrying Wednesday - what must the nutters over the road be doing with such a sound and reasoned RNS - ?????

Bones - 18 Nov 2004 18:17 - 1441 of 2372

Psion - yes. PON moved like this in 1997 when all its new stuff was to be the next big thing. Went up to 5, back down to 2 and all sorts. Two years later it hit 70 before collapsing. My take on BPRG is that we are at the 1997 stage in its development......fun to find out anyway!

daves dazzlers - 18 Nov 2004 18:21 - 1442 of 2372

Spot on bones,at least we have a product.

And yes i made a couple of pound,,and took a risk.

david 2000 - 18 Nov 2004 19:03 - 1443 of 2372

At least this news afterhours has created a bit of volume in the ADR's across the pond... :-)
Glad I closed my long at the death. Because I havent a clue where it will open. Probably wont get a good feel until some volume kicks in, mid morning. Should be fun though.

Big Al - 18 Nov 2004 19:17 - 1444 of 2372

Can't say I'm too enthused by the statement.

The positives are a given and well known, though things appear more toned down than previously, particularly the quote from the CEO regarding generating revenues and profits from licensing and the timeframe involved. He also appears to be losing patience with the nutters. "This is frustrating for some of our Shareholders who like to see short term results." could be construed in several ways, but "leave me alone" is how I interpret it, politely!!

As for the negatives, there's a few too many for my liking. Markets don't like exceptional charges and they don't like litigation dragging on. I'm not sure I like the cash/cashburn not including exceptionals either. I don't like "significant exceptional cost" in relation to SEO. 15m doesn't stretch far with this, the cashburn expected and the likely need for new plant to service these big contracts.

Gawd knows what we'll see tomorrow, but I'm not overly confident it'll recoup the last few days crash any time soon.

Bones - you'll not worry as you're looking 3,4,5 years hence, but you are not in the majority I believe!! ;-))

Jumpin - 18 Nov 2004 19:34 - 1445 of 2372

Hmm, his comments, frustrating for shareholders who like to see short term results..

Don't think many shareholders like having their investment pluge rapidly by 50% in a few weeks... and to say that is too much to ask is ridiculous

Fred1new - 18 Nov 2004 19:55 - 1446 of 2372

Bones. "Uncertainty cleared". Does that mean one can see the uncertainty clearly!!

Sorry!!

I would like to buy more but my holding in proportion to my total holdings advises me. Good luck to the buyers, if they are considering buying to-morrow, but remember it take longer to build a price than to demolish.

Good Hunting. As long as it is not for foxes.

daves dazzlers - 18 Nov 2004 19:56 - 1447 of 2372

Emp,fair value. Well call it what you will over the last 12 months say , there has been roughly a 1 difference between high/low sp , people where going for this in feb and calling the turn in march big time , same scenario aug calling the turn still at presant . Even on both turns people where bottom feeding looking for value {limiting there risk on the downward spiral all the time it has fallen further}they where not to know that,,but they all new the situation,,they where looking at .
You can look at ta,fundamentals,what little there is on bprg and what do you find not a lot.
What about the poor sods that bought above 1.20,,and they where happy with that price .Hindsight its a wonderful thing & i am sure you know more about bprg than myself & i respect you for that,,but thats not to say you no better,,be lucky /dave..

Goodluck gh.

Dil - 18 Nov 2004 20:05 - 1448 of 2372

Jumpin , he's allright though , didn't he flog a shedload a few weeks ago ?

Al , "exceptional items" always make me laugh , check out the number of companies who year after year hide behind "exceptional items". Next year's exceptional item will probably be "start up costs" year after "expansion costs" and then "redundancy costs".

Big Al - 18 Nov 2004 20:12 - 1449 of 2372

Dil - yes! I don't like exceptionals either, especially those that are currently indefinable, but spiralling.

Am re-assessing the idea of longing this even now. Stuff the good things the punters like, it's what the big boys/girls like (or don't like) that will drive it and they don't like uncertainty!

dd - isn't the CEO called Graham Hindsight?

Big Al - 18 Nov 2004 20:13 - 1450 of 2372

;-)

Dil - 18 Nov 2004 20:18 - 1451 of 2372

Company issues what amounts to a profits warning and they are throwing a party in some places.

LornaSnowden - 18 Nov 2004 20:19 - 1452 of 2372

Forgive me for being naive, but the only thing this 'announcement' confirms is that the loss has increased to around 7m from 3.8m (interim results). No mention of convertible bonds, Citadel or any sound reason for SP falling by around 50%. The rest of the stuff is just newsy stuff, personally I'm disappointed.

daves dazzlers - 18 Nov 2004 20:20 - 1453 of 2372

Al,i thought it was the old liverpool boss,he also had a few excuses,,gerrard hindsight.

Big Al - 18 Nov 2004 20:21 - 1454 of 2372

Smoke and Mirrors, Lorna? It happens.

Martini - 18 Nov 2004 20:42 - 1455 of 2372

Makes you wonder what the Board level Finance Director thinks of all this - whoops nothing - they ain't got one.
Looking at the Board people are basically investing in one man. The same clever bugger who raised money with a hedge fund. Well to be fair he did cream some off first so maybe not so dumb.
Still can't happen again - hang they got an option on a futher 5M oaaa better stick to premium bonds this stuff too hairy for me.
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