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Second half feels less definate than the first IMO.

Tend to agree - norwich are fighting more since the sending off - now greened up

Refs getting whistle/card happy too so play is much more broken

Yes!

Almost shoved my pot on City and would have netted a fortune but happy for a smaller amount and to see City push Norwich further out of reach of safety. A purely selfish motive you understand.

Scrip

i put half my profit on city with 5 mins to go - very large smile here at the mo

Was building up a nice pot on the draw by playing the decay. Thankfully greened up before the goal. More importantly city won.

For anyone planning on lumping on arsenal tomorrow - may pay to take a look at the teamsheet first. It appears Henry is now out injured which leaves Arsenal with no recognised striker available. They will be missing:

suspended - reyes, bergkamp, van persie
injured - henry, pires, edu, silva, campbell, hoyte

The above appears to be reflected in the prices - arsenal currently available at 2.0 over 90 mins and 1.47 to qualify

I was going to put up I fancy a last minute goal but didn't. City seemed to be all over Norwich toward the end.

Re : Arsenal, I will be in the city tomorrow and may watch it in a pub but probably won't be betting on it.

Blondie, as I said in my earlier post, and Docproc confirms this, I use AOL as my ISP. I do not use AOL's browser to access the web. I minimise AOL and bring up Internet Explorer from the task bar. I don't have any problem with Betfair except that the Betfair website takes a ridiculous amount of time to load (about 60 seconds) compared to any other website (about 5 seconds). I have 2MB Broadband via AOL.

Bones,

Just timed Betfair loading and it was only 5 seconds at my end. Surprised by the 60 secs you are experiencing or suffering should I say..

It appears to be a "feature" of AOL.

The problem is that AOL are routing some of their traffic via their US servers. To Betfair it looks like the connections are coming from the States. They would look at the IP address. Unfortunately using IE rather than the AOL browser is not going to make any difference. Suggest you get yourself a proper ISP. There are so many to choose from that there is no reason to stick with an ISP that makes life difficult in so many ways.

Kayak, can't do that for a while as I'm on a year's contract. I still cannot understand why the Betfair page takes so long to download and all the others don't. Also, I am not barred from using Betfair so that seems illogical too. Betfair have my documentation showing I am a UK resident and passport holder and that is rightly good enough for them.

I can't see how they can bar Blondie from trading. Surely he had to give them the UK personal documentation to sign up? Sounds like there's a jobsworth at Betfair.

Kayak

Bones above says at post 1466:

"Blondie, as I said in my earlier post, and Docproc confirms this, I use AOL as my ISP. I do not use AOL's browser to access the web. I minimise AOL and bring up Internet Explorer from the task bar. I don't have any problem with Betfair except that the Betfair website takes a ridiculous amount of time to load (about 60 seconds) compared to any other website (about 5 seconds). I have 2MB Broadband via AOL."

I think the time Betfair takes to load is a Betfair problem, not a browser specific problem.

Sorry, I was referring to Blondie's problem, not Bones'. The problem is just that Betfair bar ranges of IP addresses which are allocated to US companies and ISPs. I don't think that AOL always route via the US for every user, I guess it must vary depending on network issues. If Bones and Blondie can open a DOS window and type

tracert www.betfair.com

and post the output (to copy, highlight with the mouse and type Return, then paste as normal), we can confirm whether that is the issue.

Your problem, Bones, is likely to be to do with AOL's cache proxy, the program at AOL that saves them internet costs by caching pages accessed. In IE check Tools/Internet Options/Connections tab/select connection/Settings (if you are using a router the settings will be under LAN settings). If 'use a proxy server' is ticked, untick it. If it is not ticked (much more likely) then it is a 'transparent proxy' and you can do nothing about it.

Kayak, how do I open a DOS window? (it's been a long time!)

Start/Programs/Accessories/Command Prompt (or MS-DOS prompt, depending on your version of Windows).