Nitefly
- 15 Sep 2003 10:55
Why are we again at 10.5p bid?
It doesn't add up...
Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop
Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!
Why sell now at a loss?
Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!
Best of luck all.
apple
- 10 Sep 2004 11:56
- 1472 of 2406
I wonder if the 1/4 million buy was a director?
biffa18
- 10 Sep 2004 11:58
- 1473 of 2406
Apple
your right in what you say but the perception that they give is not brilliant i hold 25tho of these which im about 2% down but i wont sell as i think it will come thro eventually i will wait and see but a growth of revenue of 5% is not exactly mind boggling as i said more deals with big companys and details of what they are worth ie m/s deal i am slightly dissapointed with todays rns as i expected maybe a bit more pr on future projects and hopes etc as they announced m/s deal before today i would of thought releasing it today would of made the day seem better its all about perception and what people think now as most of the volitility has gone now that alot of the day traders etc have lost their dosh and i dont see any major inst rushing to buy which would be welcome !!
prob is its got a label of a dog share which only good pr/deals will get rid of ......but as iv found sometimes dog shares can make you rich !!!! just a bit of patience is req and not to keep watching the trade pages as they are a total waste of space (dougie)
take a look at my jkx thread was in @ 20p holding 50tho now sold !! share price now over a 1
apple
- 10 Sep 2004 12:32
- 1474 of 2406
biffa18
The directors have confidence, that is why they bought at a higher price than this.
They don't announce things until they are sure, which is a good thing.
Good PR does not need to be aggressive.
I would rather have a low key approach than buckets of hype which people cease to believe after a while.
& as I said, aggressive PR would be against their interests at the moment.
Also the low key approach makes them look very responsible.
biffa18
- 10 Sep 2004 14:44
- 1475 of 2406
well we will see what happens i will sell if drops to 12p but i dont expect any sudden up rise unless more big deals are done not in the near future anyway
parveen1
- 10 Sep 2004 18:00
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parveen1
- 10 Sep 2004 18:04
- 1477 of 2406
4,000,000 shares sold in the last 2 hrs and there is no price movement downwards ! very strange
anyone shed any light on the 3 x 970,000 share sells?, also very strange !!!
Me very confused
Then again this share is giving everyone a hell of a rollercoaster ride
apple
- 10 Sep 2004 18:42
- 1478 of 2406
I suppose that they were not sells then, just not reported on time for the algorithm to get them right.
Anyway, it wasn't 2 hours.
Fundamentalist
- 10 Sep 2004 19:07
- 1479 of 2406
I am guessing but to me the three 970K trades look like a rollover trade and a transfer between brokers.
Edit: if they were all sells surely the share price wouldnt have held or the MMs know that there is more news to come
Fred1new
- 10 Sep 2004 23:24
- 1480 of 2406
Fundamentalist, Reading the score chart.Ithink you are right.
The results at first glance poorer than I expected, but I am not likely to sell my holdings until the next 6month figures are out. My holdings were bought out of previous profits and I think the long term policies are sound.
biffa18
- 11 Sep 2004 12:09
- 1481 of 2406
with any luck it might be a instut maybe taking a few maybe a rns later next week, would of thought price would of dropped further if sells as mm see these trades before we do and as apple says these could of been delayed anyway !! ,as for more news the only news to shift this up major in the short term would be talk of a takeover etc
does anyone know how much rtd make on each transaction such as t mobile etc as i expected profit to be alot more really considering the amount of transactions that must take place each day
guysands
- 11 Sep 2004 14:42
- 1482 of 2406
Does anyone have a copy of the Edmund Jackson comment of the Cybersource litigation against RTD? I think it came out shortly after August 13th - but I do not seem to be able to find it on the internet.
Thanks in advance.
Fundamentalist
- 11 Sep 2004 15:24
- 1483 of 2406
guysands - are you gsands from ADVFN?
Fundamentalist
- 11 Sep 2004 16:22
- 1485 of 2406
If overgrowth is right and it is one and the same GSands - p*** off - you're not welcome here.
I lurk on ADVFN and have seen what diatribe you post with amazing transparency. When you are long RTD you ramp all day, suddenly you have opened a spreadbetting account and are short and you are posting completely contradictory posts trying to de-ramp. Last week you posted that you were looking to short, then you said if the results were good you would go long, then you decided to short again. I can smell those fingers burning and it is a most enjoyable smell!!!!
Go back to ADVFN
For all the regular moneyam posters this person can seriously damage your wealth - he has called RTD wrong several times in the past. He then asks other people for info (hence why he's here) to try and back up his trading opinion (often appearing to try and convince himself). If you want to clarify this go to the thread on RTD on ADVFN and post a request as to opinions on GSands!!!!! Trust posters like Fistfullofdollars, Amarcou, Badabing, Hatto who will confirm what I have stated as I guess will overgrowth.
I have to admit until now I have never used the squelch facility on moneyam -that is no longer true as Guysands you are now squelched (flitered in ADVFN speak)
guysands
- 11 Sep 2004 17:44
- 1486 of 2406
Oops,
I thought this was a discussion thread.
I didn't realise it was a 'comfort' thread for RTD enthusiasts all wishing to bolster each others posistive views on RTD and reaffirm reasons for being invested in this company.
Fred1new
- 11 Sep 2004 18:03
- 1487 of 2406
Interesting. I thought that there was an element of shorting on this share for a while. I also question whether EOP is having the same problems. But the spread would seem to make it difficult for me. Interested in opinions.
Fundamentalist
- 11 Sep 2004 18:15
- 1488 of 2406
Fred
Without doubt there is shorting on this share (and all shares to some degree).
Personal opinion is a risk reward question. IMO the downside is very limited unless the litigation is successful (which in my opinion is highly unlikely) whereas the upside is a lot higher.
Fundamentally, the valuation is very undemanding, the Aussie fuel card business is worth about 16p per share on its own (and is still growing although at a single digit % rate). The CNP business is currently producing little contribution to overall profit but is signing up customers at an exceptional rate. These new customers business will start to flow through to revenue and most of this will go straight to the bottom line. There is still room for a huge amount of growth in this area at very high margins.
I would expect that the price is likely to drift a little bit until the next update on the litigation though would expect it to rise back up to at least 20p if and when the patent infringement is dropped. After that, I would expect that any future growth in share prices will be linked to the success of the growth in the CNP area. The only danger is how long the patent infringement will remain unresolved.
Personally, I wouldnt want to be short the day the patent infringement is dropped - could be some burning fingers.
All IMHO and DYOR - im still holding for the longer term growth.
Douggie
- 13 Sep 2004 09:24
- 1489 of 2406
mourning all :o(
Fred1new
- 13 Sep 2004 09:55
- 1490 of 2406
Dougie,Don't you need another holiday.
Douggie
- 13 Sep 2004 10:01
- 1491 of 2406
Yup but I need some money to pay for it!!