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What's your point?.....No explanation required!

You're either long or short either way you have to hold your nerve and have a strategy.

Would you short it at its current level?

answer the Q??
How could you lose money shorting for the last 9 months, its a simple one!, if it was possible why all the hatred against those who did??, time to grow up a little on this thread, shares are there to make a few bob, the bank don`t ask how profiteers made it , only fools turn down a gain.

I see no hatred for anyone who makes money one way or the other. What I do see is a reaction by some to the inane comments of those who have a short term objective and wish to talk the sp down.

Some believe that comment on BB's cannot directly impact on the sp, but still, wishing the sp to fall and actively talking it down is not only negative but will obviously irk a few.

Personally I'm up ~90% on a long position in a year, and that is from doing practically nothing.

Whatever your strategy I hope you make enough money to be happy.

I thank you for your kind words, however why the animosity from the minority, to those wanting to "talk the share down"?, It hasn`t exactly made any $$$ for people holding it for nearly a year, and actively talking it down is no worse than " "actively talking it up" surely, this is what such web-sites as this are for.
Personally I am chuffed that you are making 90%, but its not a profit until in the bank, and with respect you must have missed 180% profit at the sp top.

Best of luck.

I thonk anyone who went short 9 months ago will have made a handsome profit - especially if they got out at the botton when it dropped to 12p.

I think the issue being discussed is that there have been one or two that have been calling it short since December - suggesting that it will drop to 10p and below and constantly deramping.

Now everyone to their own strategy - but I would not be short on this right now - although I wish I had been when it dropped from 32 to 12 - hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I managed a top up when it dropped to 12 - and I still have those - as well as those that I bought at 6p (and 26p).

I still feel very optimistic about SEO in the long term and expect to see a steady rise this year as deals are announced.

Of course - there is no such thing as a dead cert and I continue to monitor my risk - but for now - my eyes are wide open and I think as I have done for a while that the potential of this company outweighs the risk.

C'est la vie

Baza

Baza

Well Mr classyglassy,You might not have any problem talking down People's investments so as to make money yourself,but I consider it unnecessary and underhand,especially when your posts are none factual and just drivel such as posts like, short this dog down to 8p,I am an investor stanelco,if you have factual statements to make,fair enough,but if you're like most shorters,I hope you loose a packet

Peter

BK the market is a gamble, always has been and always will be. Your profits come form other peoples losses. If you gamble in the market one expects to do you own homework and make your decisions on that. Reading bulletine boards and relying on its information is the way to losse money.

If you are certain about you fundamentals and the company don't waste your time reading the BBs.

Bring on the end of the month.
Hopefully positive RNS and 'expected' results. asda greenseal should deliver on schedule
the days of 5-8p a share are history. Anyone care to PROVE different or want to sell at that price then please feel free.
Lots of NEW/recycled posters peddling the same SHORT message.
YET SP holds steady.
Am happy to hold longterm. Won't/don't advise others as theirs is not my money.
Each to their own.
wish all well, even blinger.
lol

for those interested theres a post on FYB re coca-cola hosting the nest SUSTAINABLE PACKAGING event. PERSCO- stanelco- biodegradeable bottles?
MORE JAM TOMORROW>......LOL
http://www.sustainablepackaging.org/meetings.asp

I'm in and I'm holding long term - these shares will look very cheap in the future and others will be wishing they had bought in.

BKK2-eh???
Methinks you are havering sir,I put no price on SEO at all, and 8p is certainly not on my horizon.
Just the Q I asked in my first post , why the hatred?, some growing up to be done?
Without long and short there is no market.We are in investment together, both keep the sp afloat.
Most small punters who short nowadays use the Spread Betting firms, to wish losses on everyone who is short in that medium will incurr the wrath of millions, and probably MAM too, who advertise their wares, and indeed have lectures on how to short or long.

CG,
You need to understand the resentment and hostility on here is to one particular shorter who has nothing at all to do with 9 months. Try 3.
It is nothing to do with whether he makes money or not. Who cares.
It is nothing to do with talking a share down. Who gives a damn.
This thread has been littered with shorts and longs enjoying reasonable debate, and who knows, perhaps changing each others minds.
The hostility is towards particular posters who lack common decency and courtesy. Their position is irrelevant. When people lie and cheat and insult others they should expect nothing other than hostility.
Fred, re the market being a gamble. There is one school of economic thought that says shares are not a gamble PROVIDING your investment is properly spread across sectors and companies and you avoid shorting. The argument goes that if you long all sectors and a broad range of companies within them, then resist trading and merely hold for a number of years, you must gain in excess of inflation, deposits and bonds, otherwise capitalism has failed and we will return to a barter system. In these circumstances, money is irrelevant, so losing it doesn't matter. People lose by cranking up the odds, by way of over shorting, restricting their spread, trying to time the market and expecting gains to be instant.
Like I say, one school of thought and open to much debate, but it is often put forward as a convincing argument in economic circles. I'm not clever enough to explain it fully, and perhaps the more intelligent on here could propound it more fully, but its a damn boring subject!
Best wishes,
Alan

Hmm!!
Think I shall return to the oil threads, too much agro here,

good luck.

CG,

Goodbye & good luck!

You posed a question out of the blue, probably as a result of reading the Blinger ribbing, you got several answers, I believe quite pleasantly put, and you refer to it as "agro". Possibly a tad hyper-sensitive my lad/lass.

Hyper sensitive?, no , quite the opposite , just amazed at the inability to address the facts, the agro is sub- liminal ,it happens when sp`s surge and then go into limbo, as hewitalan said quite boring, so I will leave you to it,

good luck,
oh, and watch Empyrean tomorrow, it might surge, there again I might go short, depends which way the crumble lies ,I believe they call it " making a shilling".

Goodbye
classy glassy

good luck driver, you`ll need it.

E.K.

I will be with you pn EME tomorrow - also CHP,CDS,MRP ?? - they all seemto be bubbling right now

Well, that was an interesting little dialogue. The only question really relevant is not whether shorting is good or bad, or whether long-ing is good or bad, but whether the break-out from the converging SEO chart pattern will be up or down. The trading range has been such that there will have been little money to be made by active trading. Volumes have been quite low so I suspect the MMs have been moving the share to try to attract business. I have argued above that a break-out is inevitable: there is a balance of buyers and sellers at present but one or other will almost certainly predominate on the next RNS. If the ASDA news is not positive and there is nothing that really compensates then it could be down. But, unless you have inside information it would appear to be a sizeable gamble to short the share in advance although the situation might be different when the news is out. The response could be that the same applies with regard to taking a long position at present levels. My own judgement in taking a long position is that the potential size of a rise dwarfs the size of a fall: the criteria, applying either to the probability of any rise against any fall or to the probable size of the rise against the size of a fall, being a 3: 1 ratio. So a support level at 12p against a resistance level of 28p establishes my viewpoint.

I do go along with Alan's thesis as is clear in terms of out-performance of investments over the years. But if you spread yourself too thin you may get a real return but you won't make the killing most of us are looking for. I have to admit that I shun shorting but know a chap who made a fortune using CFDs for shorting at the turn of the century with a very strong bear market. There was loads of lolly to be made shorting SEO last summer when it got ahead of itself (the sp not the company). I currently have 6 long positions (3 via CFD), all emerging stocks, 5 out of 6 having back-tracked from over-enthusiatic initial gains. I have to admit that SEO is the one I am least certain about (because of the ASDA uncertainty), but it could well be the share with the greatest potential.

Happy to have a conversation on this because it is right to the heart of one's investing strategy - feel that that is the sort of dialogue that might be helpful for many in the absence of direct news from SEO.

Eric

does anyone know when results will be out? last year it was the 28th, but i cannot find any news indicating an exact date. do seo not have to state what date they will release the final results ?

thanks