LEEWINK
- 28 Mar 2004 15:45
NML is due its interrim results now, last year it was the 28th of this month.
They are setting up a new site to explore/research/analyse and all the equipment to do this should be on site now, and drilling should start soon, all this extra news should be covered in the interims.
does anyone have any further positive views on this company ??
stockdog
- 14 Oct 2005 14:19
- 1495 of 1909
F-understood, thanks
sd
takahe
- 14 Oct 2005 14:53
- 1496 of 1909
I'm sure Wendy will be interested to hear that she was one of NML's biggest supporters!
mininginvestor
- 14 Oct 2005 23:36
- 1497 of 1909
No you have it wrong Anomalous - F is for f***wit!
stockdog
- 15 Oct 2005 20:02
- 1498 of 1909
love the analysis, m/investor!
aimtrader
- 15 Oct 2005 22:40
- 1499 of 1909
mininginvestor,
lol!!!
and nml has a few of those, look at the mess they are in !!!
takahe
- 15 Oct 2005 22:57
- 1500 of 1909
From the RNS
"Whilst alluvial diamond production is a lucrative cash flow operation, the asset
which adds greatest shareholder value is hard rock kimberlite. With this in view
the Company is looking to work more closely with Endiama and its partners in
Angola to gain a Kimberlite exploration licence.
Endiama assistance
Endiama the Company's 51% partner in the project has assisted the Company by
assigning one of its pre-eminent geologists and a senior topographer to the
project. The Company and Endiama are committed to working together to ensure the
most profitable outcome for the joint venture."
stockdog
- 16 Oct 2005 01:07
- 1501 of 1909
What's wrong with reverting to the lucrative cashflow on the alluvials? Got no cash to do it with and no production licence still.
Do Endiama have top technicians? Or are these minders to keep NML out of trouble?
I take these words to be NML directors putting a brave face on their predicament, not as nuggets of hope, I'm afraid.
sd
takahe
- 16 Oct 2005 10:14
- 1502 of 1909
stockdog..morning...
I had a long conversation with the PR chap two days ago. Obviously PR people are always optimistic but he stressed that things are being accelerated to get the potential from the C9, by bringing in bigger guns, more equipment and skilled geologists.
What I am assuming is that the earlier core samples which were taken in January have shown promise of good quality. Alrosa would be able to take material to their mine and process it with their equipment.NML are NOT at loggerheads with Alrosa.
Anomalous1
- 16 Oct 2005 13:50
- 1503 of 1909
mclellan - 16 Oct'05 - 12:42 - 2107 of 2108
prsimo..their PR bloke told me the other day that they are trying to get institutional support
........And the laughs could be heard for miles!
Are this PR agency serious?! Do they really think anyone would invest institutional funds in such a basket case as NML?!
They would have to have been committed to an 'Institution' for even considering investing in such a pile of poo!
NML must really be getting desparate to make such a claim. It is completely ridiculous to consider that any professional investment body would invest in a company whose only track record of note has been
1. the destruction of value,
2. the failure to achieve the goals they set for themselves,
3. the inability to bring in revenue where plenty was available and
4. a total lack of concern for the shareholders.
Institutions are very reluctant to invest in mining stocks unless they are backed by other firms with a serious pedigree, such as majors or other institutions and banks. With no JV's , no foreseeable income, a annoyed partner (Endiama) and very little in the way of solid assets, I very much doubt that NML will get any takers whatsoever.
The one key thing that NML needed to capture the institutional's attention has been singularly lacking since they started. That is a proper analyst's report. To my knowledge, they have tried to get such a report on several occasions. I have yet to hear of any analyst being interested in putting their reputation on the line by writing about NML. In fact, I doubt that any analyst would be stupid enough to even attempt to.
Two weeks and counting......................................
takahe
- 16 Oct 2005 20:26
- 1504 of 1909
Anomalous..that is your opinion. In my opinion, you sound more desperate than them. You have your own perception of what is happening, but you do not necessarily know the correct facts.
I repeat...that is what he SAID.
You do realise the C9 concession is right next to one of Angola's best diamond mines. Why should you asssume that there is no future? I agree that it is not what they set out to do...but that does not necessarily mean the end, as you constantly, happily, and nastily predict.
What you say , or I say, is of no consequence to what happens. You might put a few people off..but NML will succeed or fail on its own merits. They are involved in a bigger picture...as long as they don't get squeezed out of the 'frame'!
(picture..frame..I know you have no sense of humour!)
It is easy to sneer.
stockdog
- 16 Oct 2005 21:23
- 1505 of 1909
On the basis that "He who throws mud loses ground" I must say my sympathies lie with Takahe rather than Anomalous. There is a 100% correlation between vituperative assertion and inaccuracy of message on MAM threads in my experience. Anomalous, if you were right, you would have no need to use such an abusive style. It is the uncertainty of your own position that leads you to behave so egregiously. I have no idea who is right, but I know one thing for certain from the tone of your posts - neither do you. Give it a rest and let some light into the argument for once.
Takahe, happy to debate with you any day - even though I have really no more idea that you are right than Anomalous. At least your more courteous style feels less like a hammer to dull my own poor brain, so is in itself an aid to more constructive reflection on the future of NML.
But who am I to hold any opinion when I am guilty of following this share down against the stern advice of Mr Market who long ago gave the order to abondon ship.
I am resigned to this share being a 50/50 gamble between anihilation and retaining some carried share in a new operation of the C9 concession between Endiama and Alrosa, plus the value of their Finnish interest. If the latter allows the company to survive, it will one day be picked up by someone looking for an AIM listing (not unvaluable), although I think it would stretch the definition of a "cash shell" a little further than history has previously admitted.
Since the upside of survival is probably about 3 X the current value - that fits with my parameter of at least 3 X the upside potential to the down in any investment. So I'm staying in. Perhaps if I confine my defiance to Mr Market on this one share alone, he will bless me with good fortune on the others I hold.
sd
Andy
- 16 Oct 2005 23:02
- 1506 of 1909
Stockdog,
To the best of my knowledge, Anomalous has no position in NML, so has no need to sound desperate.
Takahe has a holding.
IMO we can all only speculate, some are more informed than others, but one thing is for certain, you can't argue with the price or chart, and on that basis, the market doesn't like NML at the moment.
I have spoken to the PR guy, on several occasions, and with no disrespect intended, (he is a decent guy), he is not that savvy on NML, or mining stocks (IMHO).
I still don't buy the change to kimberlite mining, after all, if it was by far the better prospect, why didn't they do that from the beginning?
And they're still apparently spurning 10,000 carats per month alluvial production? No way IMO!
They certainly need to pull some sort of solid positive news before the results, or the price will be caned I think.
The next couple of weeks could be very interesting.
takahe
- 16 Oct 2005 23:15
- 1507 of 1909
I do indeed have a holding..I have always made that perfectly clear. My reference to Anom sounding desperate, as is also perfectly clear, is that he is desperate to see this share fail. We all know he has no position in it, now..nor Andy either. It amazes me that they spend so many hours on the BB of a share they do not hold. It seems to be resented by them if I report anything positive said by Company people.
Considering the PR guy also does Mano River, Alexandra Mining , Beowulf and another, as well as NML, he must have some idea of mining stocks...although he is certainly not an expert. That does not stop him trying to get some coverage of the various shares and to try and do his job decently. Another point he made to me was that he would not stay with them if he didn't think they would succeed because their failure would not be good for his own business. One of his jobs is to answer simple questions from shareholders. If you don't care to believe him, that is up to you.
stockdog
- 16 Oct 2005 23:57
- 1508 of 1909
That's my point, Andy. Whatever your perspective, you have no need to sound desperate. Desperation is a sign of a troubled mind. Look at the evidence - Anom with no holding always sounds desperate(ly unpleasant); takahe with a holding greatly diminished in value and standing at the brink of another precipice (just like me) on the other hand usually sounds reasonably sanguine (just like me, he he!). I know who I'd rather discuss my woes with and come away feeling the better for it.
Why do people with no holdings always get such bees in their bonnets and express themselves so aggressively? It's a mystery to the simple-minded such as myself. I have myself occasionally posted quite extensively (negatively) on stocks which I do not own, but am interested in considering whether I should own them - always with pretty good nature and giving reasons (either analysis or personal expertise) for my statements and hoping to stimulate debate from others who know something I have overlooked. I have, it must be said, somtimes received a large dose of vitriole in return from desperate holders who have probably lost substantial value for the very reasons I gave that I was not prepared to invest - no one likes a smart-arse, I guess. I've never felt the need to belittle or threaten or preach to those others on the thread who do hold, nor have I ever done it with a view to profiting by a share's fall in price (I don't as yet spreadbet, although hoping to have a go soon).
I've spent the evening doing something I should have done before ever entering a single position on any share - set a stop limit policy for each and every holding. Some of the shares I've looked at would make you weep as they have done me from the criminally negligent way in which I allowed blind hope to override Mr Market's iron whim. Yet do you see me wailing and gnashing my teeth - far from it, I feel purged and can enter another day's investing sure in the knowledge that I will not make the same mistakes again for, oh!, hours to come!
happy and non-desperate investing, everyone.
sd
takahe
- 17 Oct 2005 08:25
- 1509 of 1909
stockdog..I sent you a message on the 'envelope system'...
how does it show up when you have a message waiting?
stockdog
- 17 Oct 2005 09:11
- 1510 of 1909
It shows up in my normal email inbox.
Sorry can't return the favour since you have not enabled your MAM message system by entering your email address.
Thanks, anyway.
sd
takahe
- 17 Oct 2005 09:17
- 1511 of 1909
thanks, stockdog..I've sorted that...
queen
- 17 Oct 2005 16:05
- 1512 of 1909
NML IS GOING TO THE ""#''##NG MOON MARK MY WORDS
queen
- 17 Oct 2005 16:05
- 1513 of 1909
I actually thinks its going further, Pluto here we come!
nkirkup
- 17 Oct 2005 16:20
- 1514 of 1909
DREAMMMMMMMMM ON ALL