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Traders Thread - Thursday 4th December (CBRY)     

Crocodile - 03 Dec 2003 23:23

Premarket Futures FTSE -10 DAX -25 DOW +1 S&P +1.1 Nasdaq +4.5

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In the US a midday rally ran out of steam as the Nasdaq composite crossed 2,000 for the first time in nearly two years, only to fall back and drag the rest of the market with it. The Dow Jones finished up 19.78, S&P down 1.89 down 19.82 to 1960.2

DEBENHAMS SHARES SUSPENDED  .... Awaiting further news

Reed Elsevier publisher said it is on track for double-digit 2003 earnings growth,BUT that a soft education market and increased investment would result in slightly lower growth in 2004.

Mitchells & Butlers pub operator reported a one percent drop in annual profits (just above analyst forecasts) and said the outlook for its business is improving but it remains cautious on the outlook for consumer spending.Securicor reported a slight rise in profits and said although it was still seeing tough trading it saw 2004 with confidence. They posted profits of 80.2 million pounds and boosted its annual dividend by 14 percent to 2.4 pence per share.

Kelda water and utility group reported a 5.8 percent rise in half-year profits that was at the top end of market forecasts,

Premier Farnell electronics distributor reported a fall in third-quarter profits in line with market expectations, but said it had seen uneven signs of improvement in its key markets. Profits fell to 15.2 million pounds with analysts forecast of 15.2 million to 16.4 million pounds.

Cadbury Later On Today

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AWG (I) PBT 34.1m exp, Holidaybreak (F) PBT 28.2m exp. Mitchells & Butlers (F) PBT 195m exp,

Premier Farnell (Q3) PBT 15.9m exp, Securicor (F) PBT 64m exp. AEA Technology (I), Avon Rubber (F), Dyson Group (I), Findel (I),

Kelda Group (I), Xansa (I)Debenhams Offer by Baroness Retail Ex Date. Terms are 470p per share

Cadbury Schweppes Trading Statement

12.00 BOE Rate Announcement

00.01 Nov BRC Shop Price Index Europe: 10.30 NTC, Deloitte & REC Report on Jobs

Dollar General Corp. (DG)

13.30 Initial Jobless Claims (w/e 29/11) 355k exp.

Porsche (F), ThyssenKrup AG (F)

11.00 Oct Preliminary BBK Factory Orders m/m 0.7% exp. 11.00 September Retail Trade m/m

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Melnibone - 04 Dec 2003 12:28 - 15 of 26

Market is waiting for initial jobless claims
and the US reaction.

The big one comes tomorrow where 150,000 jobs
are expected to be added in the US.

Melnibone.

little woman - 04 Dec 2003 12:42 - 16 of 26

Just been over to the Traders room, to read the traders thread and Copied this from, which also was copied from another thread elsewhere....

daily reckoning always a good skim read
http://www.dailyreckoning.com/

*** What kind of a cynic would not love this wonderfully mad world? The Chinese work around the clock... save their money... and then lend it to rich spendthrifts who cannot possibly pay it back. The Americans take the money, mortgage their houses... and their government... and their children's solvency... to buy gee-gaws and gadgets that they don't need from the Chinese, even stomping on old ladies in their rush to load up on bargains at Wal-Mart. The Chinese then build more factories and hire more workers to create more products for the people who couldn't pay for the last products they sold... while the Americans, noticing only the rate of spending and borrowing, think they are 'recovering'... getting rich again, without actually saving any
money. Meanwhile, the currency in which all these transactions take place loses its value, day after day.

LOL

Melnibone - 04 Dec 2003 12:45 - 17 of 26

The sleepy US is starting to wake up and shrug off
the effect of last nights Martini.

Futures are rising.
DOW back over 9900 and S@P knocking on the door of 1069.

We got the pullback during normal trading hours yesterday,
so unless they want to pocket some of Tuesdays profits
it will take some news to give a reason not to retest
yesterdays highs.

We'll find out in a few hours.

Melnibone

Douggie - 04 Dec 2003 12:54 - 18 of 26

litle woman great post ..15 looks about right.

Melnibone still xfinger Dow/ft go up, agree bum nip time at this level :-(

ThePlayboy - 04 Dec 2003 13:33 - 19 of 26

Jobless worse at 365k, futs slid 11 so far, last weeks figs revised up 4k usual scenario!

david 2000 - 04 Dec 2003 14:10 - 20 of 26

What you doing over hear, TP!!!! :_)) you got lost like foale this AM!!!

ThePlayboy - 04 Dec 2003 14:11 - 21 of 26

d2k who let you out? get back where u belong:)

little woman - 04 Dec 2003 14:16 - 22 of 26

Please stay, or at least visit occassionally - it's nice to have additional input from time to time.


Trying to stop myself from picking some GSK.........

Melnibone - 04 Dec 2003 14:53 - 23 of 26

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I was looking at GSK as well, but I was concerned that it had
broken below 1300p.

I took a step back and looked at the bigger map as above.
The current lows on the uptrend are a nice straight line,
but when you look at the bigger picture, a price of 1200p
doesn't look outside the realms of possibility if the bigger
range comes into play.

I think I would be happier buying it above 1300p, but it's
your call.

Melnibone

zarif - 04 Dec 2003 14:56 - 24 of 26

EUR/USD -just hit another high at 1.2156 if this uptrend continues unchecked then next level to look forward would be 1.25 target.Surely this will make Europe much expensive compared to US stocks

rgds
zarif

little woman - 04 Dec 2003 15:32 - 25 of 26

I've been buying & selling GSK below 13 all this year so far. It has struggled several times to break 13 & when it has it has tried to make 14 only to come back down and drop below the 13. I'm hoping it'll drop to 12.60 but it's hard, because I was in the same position a few months ago, willing it to drop back for the third time to below 11 and it never did!

Melnibone - 04 Dec 2003 16:33 - 26 of 26

Took the profit on LGEN again at close of play.

I'm not happy about the way it's crabbing sideways
using the old 100p support level as resistance.

I expected it to have bounced off the bottom trend
line by now.

Melnibone.
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