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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


dexter01 - 17 Feb 2005 14:19 - 1503 of 27111

found these links on the other side.

TOMBSTONE - Try here :-
http://www.gov.mb.ca/labour/safety/pdf/bltn182.pdf

or here :-
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/80107_33.html

EWRobson - 17 Feb 2005 14:21 - 1504 of 27111

The dishonesty behind that interference quote reported by Aldwick is mind-boggling. SEO have been a world leader in application of R/F for decades so would not make such a schoolboy error, while you must give credit to ASDA taking that into account in their trials. Nor can I agree with 12.825p (the placement price) not being a support level. Clearly considered as such by my broker. Any support level can be broken but is much more likely to produce a bounce. Volumes are relatively low this week as there were 150M shares traded last week or nearly 20% of the share capital, so price is unlikely to move much until the volume picks up; plenty of warning so the MMs will not be caught short of stock, I doubt. Filthy Poor: thanks for refuting the interference nonsense but your comment about an sp of 6.5p doesn't make sense. You can't just look at a chart: you have to take account of the fundamentals; in this case including the ASDA trials. There is also the comment that analysts forecasts can't be relied on, but that is how they build their reputation; added to that, in this case, Evolution quoted management figures, so it is effectively a preview of forecasts which should be unveiled as part of the Prelims. Peel Hunt, the house brokers, will have quoted up-to-date figures in the recent placing. The accounts themselves, being for the period to end October, will not show much build up of revenue but, based on my recollection of the Interims, they will be reasonably explicit about current trading and forcasts.

Put my money where my mouth is - CFD for 125K shares at 13.15p.

Eric

FILTHY POOR - 17 Feb 2005 14:24 - 1505 of 27111

dexter
I didn't say either of the two parties had not already thought about this,
I was mearly adding some fact to alwickk's post 1492.
So, get off your soap box, before you fall off.

All industrial, electro-mechanical machinery has to comply with the following
regulations:-

BS EN 50081 Emissions standard and
BS EN 50082 Immunity standard.

Simply, they must not emit any interference which may cause other machinery
to malfunction.Also they must be immune, within limits, to any such interference.

This is not the minor problem which you suggest it is, but, to reinforce my first statement, they have probably already covered this.

Dunskey - 17 Feb 2005 14:25 - 1506 of 27111

Aldwikk, FILTHY POOR, Dexter et al.

RF interferrance? simple! SEE Block Shield(BLS)!

dexter01 - 17 Feb 2005 14:34 - 1507 of 27111

FP,
I apologise, i read it wrong, aldwickk`s post was lifted from the other side.
have just stepped down off the soapbox!
dexter

FILTHY POOR - 17 Feb 2005 14:37 - 1508 of 27111

EWRobson
6.5p solid support level.
12.825p weak support.
This company has a viable product, but its intellectual property
does not command a market cap. of >100m.
I have been known to be wrong...... I can't remember the exact occasion.
Hope your CFD pays off!

FILTHY POOR - 17 Feb 2005 14:38 - 1509 of 27111

dexter
Its safer on terra-firmer.

dexter01 - 17 Feb 2005 14:39 - 1510 of 27111

FP.
is that firmer as in more solid , or firma as in the latin???????????
dexter

FILTHY POOR - 17 Feb 2005 14:47 - 1511 of 27111

dexter
I stand corrected, "firma", the really hard stuff.

dexter01 - 17 Feb 2005 14:53 - 1512 of 27111

FP,
seriously though, what is your take on SEO and their product?
tia,
Dexter

FILTHY POOR - 17 Feb 2005 15:23 - 1513 of 27111

dexter
SEO have an excellent product and, I believe, a very rosy future.
However, in the short term, I have some concerns about their cash position
and the impending damages awarded to BPRG.
The "placing" cash, I suspect, will be completly eaten-up by this.
Have the placing shares been admitted yet? Where they admitted on the 15th?
If so, Peel Hunt could have already sold some, and made a tidy profit.

deancroft - 17 Feb 2005 15:28 - 1514 of 27111

Regarding previous posts concerning RF leakage, serious problems etc, be content that at least one small investor here is an Engineering Tech, Engineering Council registered and a Member of the Institute of Incorporated Engineers. Howard White, Deputy CEO of Stanelco has confirmed to me that their technology is solid state and these declarations of "leakage problems" are utter nonsense. RF is not new, the application is. Don't be influenced by what you don't know, do what I did and talk to Stanelco or someone who does know then make up your own mind.

FILTHY POOR - 17 Feb 2005 15:35 - 1515 of 27111

deancroft
Didn't say it wasn't a problem they havn't dealt with.
But don't dismiss it as never having been a problem.
RF is not new, but neither is interference, which is why the
European community has decided to legislate it.
Also,an Engineer!!

bhunt1910 - 17 Feb 2005 16:20 - 1516 of 27111

The 2 sells of 325,000 shares do in fact look like buys - but notified late.

hutchins - 17 Feb 2005 16:26 - 1517 of 27111

yes, look at the time.

ethel - 17 Feb 2005 16:46 - 1518 of 27111

Two engineers...goody goody.Maybe deancroft and Filthy Poor can help us out on Canadian Coal where I am discussing the merits of PRV and where you can help us to understand the technologies that firm is involved with?????Sorry to interrupt.After last weeks excitement with SEO and B### the gentle world of Porvair beckons the fearless investress.Ethel

hlyeo98 - 17 Feb 2005 18:30 - 1519 of 27111

Massive selling again today - 9.8 million sell vs 2.8 million buy - looks like bears on the rampage. I am sure Evil Knievel is shorting SEO.

bosley - 17 Feb 2005 19:09 - 1520 of 27111

evening all. just wondering why all this talk and rumour mongering about seo's technology not working hasnt been mentioned until this week? funny how its the same week as people are saying mr knevil is shorting seo. 2 plus 2 equals four. come on , it aint that hard to figure out. deputy ceo of seo totally refutes the rumours as utter nonsense. thats enough for me.

EWRobson - 17 Feb 2005 19:24 - 1521 of 27111

deancroft: thanks for excellent post.

Filthy Poor: 'Didn't say it was a problem they haven't dealt with. But don't dismiss it as never being a problem'. Then why raise it in the first place?

Re: patents. SEO had excellent cover for their R/F technology applied to optical fibres which kept them in good stead for many years (30?). 'Stanelco has filed applications for a new family of patents in respect of a new packaging system that could revolutionise the global cooked and raw meat packaging industry' (RNS 16/7/04). Even if patents are challenged or breached, then the market lead remains substantial and very valuable.

Re: support levels. What is the solid support level for NLR: 180p? Ask the investors who have received placed shares at 12.875p whether the financial case for that cap. for the company is 'weak'? As with NLR, the fundamentals change with progress made by an emerging company which engender historical price levels redundant.

I don't find your observations credible and they appear to be motivated by an attempt to drive the price down. Why otherwise bother to come onto this thread? Or do you feel a real mission in life to take the (R/F?) scales off the eyes of genuine investors?

EWR

SueBacon - 17 Feb 2005 19:49 - 1522 of 27111

new to the game. What are MM's?
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