Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Fred take the shame and just admit you got it wrong. Hope that helps.

Just doing a bit of research to my earlier post , it was Ed Milliband who said leaving the EU would affect Climate Change , you couldn't make it up ,could you .

Alistair Darling says we would lose 250 Billion if we leave the EU , is that per day or per hour ?

Max,

Nothing is forever.

Not even me.

jimmy is that each person per year .

When you off then JB?

VIC really ? i can't afford that i'm voting in .

Fred.

You really do need to do some research. TTIP is forever, unless "they" say different.

Who "they" you might ask?

The EU Commission plans to impose fines on countries that refuse to take refugees under revised EU asylum laws to be put forward on Wednesday (4 May).
The commission will propose a sanction of €250,000 per refugee, according to the Financial Times.
The commission's proposal will maintain the guiding principle of the current system that the country where migrants first step into the EU must deal with asylum applications. But it proposes that when a country at the EU’s external border is overwhelmed, asylum seekers should be distributed across the continent.
The commission has been trying to encourage reluctant countries, particularly in central and eastern Europe, to take part in the redistribution system.
Slovakia and Hungary have already brought a court case to challenge an earlier EU decision to redistribute migrants based on a mandatory quota.
But commission officials say the outcome of the court’s decision will not affect their plans to overhaul the asylum system, known as the Dublin regulation.
EU countries last year agreed to redistribute 160,000 asylum seekers across Europe in two years, but have so far actually redistributed only a small portion.
Central European politicians have been vocal about an earlier version of the proposal for mandatory redistribution that was released last month.
At the time, Czech European affairs minister Tomas Prouza tweeted: “Permanent quotas once again? How long will the EU commission keep riding this dead horse instead of working on things that really help?”
Diplomats from eastern EU states have told this website that they are not “heartless people” and they are willing to help refugees in other ways, but they believe a redistribution system will simply lead to more immigrants arrive in the EU.

EU mantra , Don't listen to your own members .

Some of your own members!

Why doesent the Kommission simply make the fatherland take them all on pain of a €250k fine per person for non compliance?

After all, it's the fatherland who invited them in.

Fred can't think anything is wrong even when it is ,just admit it you HATE Britain Fred.

250.000 per immigrant ? and how many will we be fined for ? that's errrr a lot of money my calculator couldn't keep up .
I know just tell the EU to Fcuk off ,send them to Germany .

JB the hate accuser now, your getting worst.. the sooner your shipped off to gun nutter land the better.

When we have admitted enough foreigners and immigrants Britain will be OK.

With a little bit of luck, we will be able to swap Dumbo for one of them.

.. Oh joy -):

Yes oh joy! Let's hope they all live next door Fred and Stan. That'll teach em!

Merkels Pan European Army in the pipeline too .

Sadiq Khan using 'Uncle Toms' slur against moderate Muslims.
Not radical enough for this piece of scum .

Is this the type you like Fred and Stan .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3572015/Sadiq-Khan-branded-unfit-London-Mayor-emerges-called-moderate-Muslim-s-Uncle-Toms.html

Some non-fiction reading for those who like reading the facts.

voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_control

''according to a weekly survey released Tuesday by polling agency ICM. The "Leave" campaign saw a lead of 1 percent over the "Stay" camp, with 45 and 44 percent support, respectively, and 11 percent of respondents saying they were undecided''.
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