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Captain Guide (not that I've any time for an arse like that) seemed certain of a 2:30 release, but I cannot see any point in that regardless of what the results contain.
Alan

if the information contains wal-mart related news then the relese would have to be simultaneously, otherwise invetors who are already trading would have an advantage over the us.

AGM and finals are tomorrow for sure. Apparently the loss of 2.1M is spot on, but no real movement with actual orders etc. Its going to be another 'future' speech from Howard!

Sharesure, I have heard similar talk Re: Mcdonalds for this week, but it wont be mentioned in the results. However I bet it'll be delayed a tad-always seems the way!

Morning, ssanebs,

Not always, unless it will have a significant effect on the other companies shares, ( ie Walmart ) and without figures, it will have very little if any effect on a company as huge as Walmart. There are many instances of news being released where a company has a deal in the offering, ( without figures ) that are not released simultaneously by the other company, if at all. ( re the news on Friday, this was not released by Walmart, only by Seo ( unless i missed it ). As said if there are figures re any deal in the results then yes, I would agree with you, but I don't think there will be. Also as said, I hope I am wrong.

Bugz

How do you know that the loss will be 2.1m and that there is no real movement with actual orders (I assume you mean Greenseal and Starpol). Where do you get your info from that you base your statement on?

The oily one

can confirm from house broker that the results are tomorrow

Ssanebs,
Thanks re the confirmation of the result date.

ssanebs

Did they say whether they would be released at 7.00am of at 2.30pm?

The oily one

Oily,

I shall rephrase - I have been led to believe from an acquaintance that the 2.1M expected loss will be just that. As I'm sure you'll understand, that is an opinion of his and that no price sensitive information would leak from this trustworthy board that are in place at SEO. Of course, this could be complete crap and they lost 10 million!!!!! Nothing is ever sure until its announced.

As others have mentioned the share might slowly tick upwards over the next few weeks, but it seems that the city is going to be looking for actual cash entering the books-many feel it is only when orders are confirmed that we'll be out of the teens.

Where do we find info on what EK is upto.Does he have a website.
I'm a longtime holder of SEO.

manageress
Apparently you have to subscribe to this site to find out what the evil one is doing.
https://t1ps.com/default.asp

Manageress: driver has given the reference. Costs 70 to 80 to subscribe. Editor is Tom Winnifrith who does his research well. You have probably come across Zak Mir who is a respected chartist. Tom chats to EK twice a week and the piece is quite entertaining. Helpful to know what Evil is up to as he gets a lot right but some wrong; loves to short but probably means at least as much when he goes long as with SEO on Friday.

Evolution forecast loss of 1.9m last month so 2.1m will be in line with market expectations. I saw the Wal-Mart annopuncement as both negative and positive: negative in the sense that one had hoped that they would be further along the line rather than just work being undertaken with an environmentally friendly group; positive in the sense that WM must be reading the ASDA work positively so that the longer term implications are very positive. I suspect that this stock needs to be played long and it seems that that is what EK is doing.

Eric

Eric, I think you're bang on it-thats why we're not moving out the 20s - movement on getting big boys like WM to put in firm orders is taking ages-much longer than pretty much everyone expected. Hence the sp has taken a pasting over the last four or five months.

Presuming the above however, I'm finding it hard to have a clear opinion of how the market will react to it. I was going to add to my long position first thing this morning, however i didnt as I'm simply stuck on the fence!!

Taking the announced loss within market expectiations as Evo forcasted, what are others thinking? Up or down post results? My gut says up, but I'm worried that the market are going to take it all with a pinch of salt if no figures of future contracts are mentioned.

Anyone know who's been buying / selling since the 28p peak - or even who currently hold sin any size? Don't recall (m)any RNS about institutions coming in, or for that matter reducing. So I assume those that were in have all sat tight. First big move north will likely come when one or more institutions decide to move in for the next phase.

Come to that, director's shareholding seem pretty meagre. Barrie Hozier has a large chunk and Ian Balchin 250k's worth - but what about all the others? Are they all catered for by the share scheme. There has been no new bui=ying anyway to my knowledge for over a year.

sd

Bugz,

I think you have hit the nail on the head re your comment' stuck on the fence'.
I think that's where most punters are. It has to be a case of wait and see.

We seem to have a concensus! All sitting on the fence - warbling our various songs, some more tuneful than others. Vultures hovering around but sfety in numbers. The fundamentals as I see them: (i) the cap is around 150m looking ahead to a Greenseal volume of around 500 plus contribution from Starpol, etc.; (ii) unlikely that this volume is in the bag so there will be caution until sales are achieved - this may need the ASDA contract completion and orders from competitors; (iii) The WM liaison is positive but can't be banked in the sp. I suspect that there is little reason to sell and too risky to short, particularly with EK going long. It also implies that there is no urgency to buy. All based on a neutral statement tomorrow, i.e. no surprises in the numbers, ASDA progress OK, no significant new orders. Best to be in but not overweight. Nice to see the sp is firm.

Eric

Manageress,

If you want to phone him, Simon [ E K ] this is his number 020 7835 0868.

I think it was you Alan, who said that traditionally the price always fell initially after the results were issued. Being inexperienced and wanting to maximise any meagre profit I could make, Does anyone think it would be wise to sell on a high today and reinvest at a lowish point tomorrow, its risky I know, but if traditionally it always falls on results day, is that a big risk to take?

Any ideas?

Hunty

Why pay your broker twice? If you've done your homework and are a true investor, buy and hold, that's the real way to maximise your profits. If not speculate as much as you like but it will be your broker who's maximising his profit.

Never said traditional, Hunty. It just seems to happen an awful lot to most shares. I've never researched it but it seems to me that poor results or results at about expectation cause a small fall, and results better than expected cause a rise.
Most results are pretty well known in advance these days so most seem to be exactly what analysts have been forecasting.
Its a huge gamble to take and one I would counsel against, as the dealing costs and spread make it more necessary to have wild swings.
I also think alot of research has shown that on average, trying to time the market is a bad idea.
I goof around with my investments and often try to put a stop loss in place around 5% lower than closing price the night before results, to protect myself from very bad results, and allow me to buy back in, increasing my stock for the same money, but like all strategies, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
Much cleverer people than I get burnt trying that sort of thing, and for tomorrow, I am going to sit on my thumbs and wait for the dust to settle to make any kind of decision.
Up to you.
Alan