Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
Haystack
- 17 Apr 2010 12:57
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Israel was created before the Holocaust, but I do believe it was a mistake. Legally it existed from 1948, but practically it was agreed to from 1917.
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2010 00:34
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Deligitimisation and demonisation rolls on aided by some muslim hatred, the looney left and their so-called liberal camp followers.
How dare you or anyone deny the right of a nation and a people to exist in their own homeland? Such deniers disgust me with their arrogance.
And yes, Israel too has to accept a Palestinian state and the main political parties agree there can only be a two state solution. But only when the Palestinians agree to co-exist peacefully and prove it with a period of not attacking Israel. Trust needs to be built slowly and steadily.
If I were an Israeli I would be very anxious about helping to give birth to a state dedicated to the destruction of Israel.
Yes, of course there are very right wing Israelis as well as very left wing ones and every shade of political belief between the two extremes - just as in most countries.
One problem with the Israeli DEMOCRATIC (and yes it's the only genuine democracy in the Middle East - and hey, try naming a genuine Muslim democracy in the region - hard, huh?)
And while I'm at it, why do people object to a JEWISH state but don't object to the other 22 MUSLIM states in the area? Sounds like the ancient hatred of Jews to me.
But to get back to the "fair" system of proportional representation the Israelis have.
What does it mean? It means small extreme religious parties normally hold the balance of power so the big parties can't form a government without agreeing to their demands. And no, those extreme religious parties don't really want to compromise, just as the extreme Muslims don't either.
So by the way there is a lesson for us not to go down the road of a hung parliament because we will be paralysed if that happens. Just vote Tory or Labour, whichever you think is the lesser of two very unsatisfactory options.
But for these so-called left-liberals in Britain who don't think Israel has a right to exist, tough sh**. Israel is here to stay so stuff your arrogance and gall where it belongs. Whine all you like, feel self-righteous with your pretend indignation, ignore the daily atrocities carried out by the governments of so many Muslim countries. Sit in your comfy armchairs thousands of miles from any existential threat, not needing local bomb shelters, not needing gas masks, not being rocketed and pontificate about whether Israel should exist. Not having the world telling you that you should allow a hostile state to come into being when your country - at its narrowest would only be ten miles wide between that hostile state and the sea.
Yes you sit there with your deeply held anti-Jewish hatreds born of two thousand years of being told by your religion that the Jews "killed God". You don't even realise how deep it is in your psyche and how you sink into the comfort of your easy stereotypes. Yes, it's very easy to hate Muslims, easy to hate Jews, Catholics, any other religion than your own. Or to hate nations, Germany, Japan whoever. The bad people exist in all countries irrespective of "race" or religion. But no, keep it simple, hate countries, racial groups, religions. Maybe you haven't got the brains or sense to understand any different. Think about it. It's people like YOU WHO START AND/OR SUPPORT WARS. Yes, it's YOUR fault there is so much needless suffering and death - and yet the irony is you cannot see that in yourselves.
You know what I would like most of all in this world? For the likes of Richard Dawkins to help people realise that religion is the source of more hatred and war than anything else.
Yes, the extremists of any religion or nationalism are more to blame than anyone else; but they are brainless and blind - that's WHY they are extremists.
But the non-extremists who deny a nation and a people the right to their own country, just like some posters on this thread, they disgust me. And that applies to the Ahmedinejads, the mullahs, the Liebermanns and all the rest of the intolerant. But you know something, the Israelis don't threaten to wipe Iran off the face of the earth, throw them into the sea, wipe out all Muslims. And you know what the overwhelming majority of Israelis want? A two state solution and to live in peace and bring up their children in peace. And many Palestinians also want that.
Most ordinary people on both sides realise that when a land is argued over by two peoples both of whom want to retain their own religious and cultural identities, is needs to be split between them, as in Ireland, Cyprus and so many countries. And that's what the UN did in 1947. The judgement of Solomon. The Arabs didn't accept that and invaded to slaughter the Jews. The rest is history.
Many Arab governments understand that and have made peace with Israel and many others have closer ties than they want publicised.
Still a long way to go, but those that say Isreal shouldn't exist and they have no right to defend their country - they are the lowest of the low.
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2010 00:49
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One last point, I understand the feelings Muslims like fahel have about their brother Muslims. They are sympathetic to people with common values and religious attitudes who they think are being treated badly, but I admit I was deeply saddened to see fahel's recent anti-semitic diatribe.
Try watching PressTV for a few nights, or Hamas TV and you'll soon also be brainwashed into thinking Jews are monkeys and pigs and Nazis.
It takes a certain amount of objectivity, sense and humanity to see beyond the propaganda. What is sad is that the fred1news and to a much lesser extent the haystacks of the world are the ones who are even worse - and yeah yeah yeah, some of their best friends are Jews - yeah yeah yeah - heard that one before - usually from the worst anti-semites - or the ones in the villages of the Pale of Settlement of Germany and Eatern Europe who were the first to volunteer to help the Nazi extermination squads in their "work".
Cue anger, righteous indignation and denial - par for the course...........
tyketto
- 18 Apr 2010 01:25
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Metro. Apl.16.
Gaza Strip.
Two palestinians,(according to Al-Mizan) Mohammed Ismael and Nasser Abu
Freh were executed by a Hamas military court after being found guilty
of collaborating with Isreal.
As an aside, did anybody see the video on Utube, where the Hamas military
drove up and murded the groom and others because they were singing (on the
street) on the way to the wedding?
Haystack
- 18 Apr 2010 04:57
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'In The Land of the B#
"people to exist in their own homeland?"
it is not their own homeland. It is the land of the Palestinians taken from them.
And it has absolutely nothing to do with "anti-Jewish hatreds born of two thousand years of being told by your religion that the Jews "killed God". " I am an atheist and I am anti-Israel, but NOT anti Jewish. I don't care what religion the people who live in Israel believe in. It is not relevant and not important.
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2010 11:33
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Jews have lived there since biblical times.............why do you think the bible refers to "Israel"?
Yes, a homeland for the Jews on a tiny sliver of their ancestral land in the midst of 22 Muslim states. What a terrible thing according to your anti-semitic prejudice..........the land of Israel was divided up between Jews and Arabs by the UN to be fair.
"I don't care what religion the people who live in Israel believe in. It is not relevant and not important." Not to you living in your fantasy land, but it does to the people, both Muslim and Jewish, who live there. But of course they don't matter to your left-liberal anti-semitic ethos. You don't think you're anti-semitic..........no, neither was Eichmann...just "objective", huh?
Some people hate Arabs or Muslims. I don't, not in the slightest.
Some people don't like this Israeli government, including me.
Some people hate Jews.
I can tell the difference........I don't see those who disagree with the Isreali government as being automatically anti-semitic I don't tar them with that brush.
There are those here who plainly are anti-semitic and one of the markers is those who deny Jews a homeland of their own in their ancestral country (shared with the Palestinian population as indeed it already is, though you would say it is predominantly Jewish - so what, 22 Arab countries are predominantly Muslim, nothing wrong with that).
Let me tell you something, what you and your sort think doesn't matter a toss.
Israel will continue to exist and prosper, despite you and your type.
Maybe because of you and your type........try thinking about that.......if you can.
Haystack
- 18 Apr 2010 13:18
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I am not anti-semitic. I am anti-Israel. I would feel the same if it was full of French people, Christians, Hindus etc. the Bible has no bearing on the problem. You might as well decide land distribution by the use of other works of fiction. You could use Treasure Island or a book about fairies. I am sure Israel will prosper, but I don't have to suppoert their behaviour. They persecute the Palestinians and cause them to live in squalor, they are building illegally on land that belongs to others, they have claimed Jerusalem for their own. The religious right parties hold the coalition Israeli governemnt to hostage and cause stupid policies. Not surprising that the Palestinians fire rocket at Israel and attack the illegal settlements.
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2010 18:16
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"I am anti-Israel"
Have you been to Israel? Spoken to lots of different people? Thought not. Understand anything about the country or its people other than your prejudices?
Don't bother answering. It's quite obvious.
"I am anti-Israel"
How ludicrous that sounds.
I am anti-Pakistan..
I am anti-Wales.
I am anti-Nigeria.
I am anti-India.
I am anti-China.
I am anti-foreigner.
I am antediluvian.
I am ignorant.
OK. Got the message.
Chris Carson
- 18 Apr 2010 18:24
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I'm anti Kopites, but life goes on! Sorry this thread needs a wee bit of humour eh, far to serious.
Haystack
- 18 Apr 2010 18:25
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Just anti the behaviour of certain countries. Not many. Zimbabwe, Israel, China, North Korea, Iran and a few others. Not the people (although some of them), but the governments of those countries. It is ignorance to style all ani-Israel comments as anti-semitic. That particular attitude never did have any credibility. I have Jewish friends who are anti-Israel. I was speaking to a parent of one of my son's friends the other day. Both parents are Jewish, but the father is a non-believer and very anti-Israel. His wife is pro-Israel. You will find plenty of prominent Jews on the internet who are anti-Israel.
Certainly too serious. Maybe we need a few anti Christian jokes or anti god jokes.
Haystack
- 18 Apr 2010 18:34
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Plenty of orthodox Jewss are against Israel's policies in Palestine. Look at this web site
http://www.nkusa.org/
Fred1new
- 18 Apr 2010 19:42
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ITL.
In general I concur with what Hays has written.
Like Hays, I am an atheist, do not believe in there is any god given right, or that Hebrew mythology gives any real bases for the establishment of the State of Israel.
(Otherwise, I being a Pagan, would claim England back for the Welsh and administer the English as I saw fit. Mind we do that already.)
However, the State of Israel has been established and is generally recognised it. To revoke the actions, which led to its formation, would probably be impossible and not gainful, even if it were possible.
But I suggest you read the initial British statement, which is below, regarding the policies regarding the formation of a state for Jews and pay attention to part I have put in bold.
I, like many others, do not consider that the Israeli administrations under influence of the Zionist zealots and far right wingers, have not complied with the intentions or mandates place on them by the United Nations and International law.
I am not defending Arabs or Palestinian terrorist or military actions, but see the actions of Israel as disproportionate, and the annexing of land and the confiscation of Palestinian land as part of their ongoing provocation.
Also, the Israeli administration of the Arab borders, and the limitations place on the functioning of Arabs in Gaza, I would consider criminal and against humanitarian principles.
Again, the use of murder squads (Mossad) to carry summary executions is illegal and murder.
At the end of the day, there will have to be compromise on all sides and eventually, they will have to sit around a table and talk and negotiate their way to a peace.
(It happened in Ireland, it will eventually it will happen in the Middle East, hopefully without increasing the murders being carried out by either side.)
Are far as me being anti-Semitic is concerned, those who know me would be unlikely to come to that judgement and I was not conscious of being anti-Israeli or for that matter any nationality.
Having said that, I am aware that I am not very enthusiastic, when regarding some of the features of different cultures and ethnic groups.
Similarly, I am not very enthusiastic about the values within some families in Welsh, English, Muslim or Catholic communities. That is my right.
I do admit, since I initiated this thread, that I have become more aware of the positioning by a certain number of posters, and surmise that some seem to be members of a Jewish lobbying group.
Unfortunately, I find their presentations as uncouth, and they do little to advance the cause of Israel, but ceased reading their postings a long time ago.
Those contributions were not argument, and I found them to be alienating.
The unfortunate response the sort posting is to group all Jews and Israelis together as one and the same.
I have not done so, and realise many Israelis and Jews would be offended by their presentations.
Israel needs friends, not blind support. Friends should be allowed to criticise, when they think it justifiable to do so..
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From Wikipedia
The Balfour Declaration of 1917 (dated 2 November 1917) was a formal statement of policy by the British government stating that
"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."[1]
The declaration was made in a letter from Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland, a Zionist organization. The letter reflected the position of the British Cabinet, as agreed upon in a meeting on 31 October 1917. It further stated that the declaration is a sign of "sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations."
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PS.
I would be interesting to know the background or "pressures" leading up to the negotiations.
(Edited Bold in wrong positions.)
Haystack
- 18 Apr 2010 21:31
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During World War I, the British sought Jewish support in the fight against Germany. This and support for Zionism from Prime-Minister Lloyd-George[19] led to foreign minister, Lord Balfour making the Balfour Declaration of 1917, stating that the British Government "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people"..."it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".
The British invasion force, led by General Allenby, included a force of Jewish volunteers (mostly Zionists), known as the Jewish Legion.
In The Land of the B
- 18 Apr 2010 22:45
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"I do admit, since I initiated this thread, that I have become more aware of the positioning by a certain number of posters, and surmise that some seem to be members of a Jewish lobbying group."
Oh my God, here we go again, a Jewish world wide conspiracy......you two, fred1new and haymaker, are so typical of your left-liberal-self-righteous motor mouths. You are the sort of arrogant, supercilious, intolerant, self-opinionated people who form the hinterland of the nazis and the anti-semites.
As for the folk with Muslim sounding names here, they are the honest straightforward (with the exception of fahel's one diatribe which he seems to regret) people I may disagree with but whom I respect. They see their fellow Muslims in Palestine suffering and without a nation of their own and I sympathise with them. The sooner the Palestinian extremists are prepared to compromise and negotiate and stop their attacks, the sooner the two peoples have a chance of a lasting settlement and peace in their lives; and the sooner the religious nutters on both sides become isolated and lose support.
Haystack
- 18 Apr 2010 22:59
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'In The Land of the B'
LOL
"The sooner the Palestinian extremists are prepared to compromise and negotiate"
How about the sooner Israel stop building on land that is not their own and oppressing the Palestinians.
You have me wrong if you think I believe that I believe that there is a Jewish conspiracy. I see the problems with Israel as having nothing to do with Jews. It has to do mainly with Zionists and religious zealots. It could be any group of people. I think you are suffering from some sort of paranoia if you think that people who are anti-Israel are anti-Jewish. I am certainly anti-religion and see it as doing tremendous harm across the globe and that applies to almost all religions. The exception might be Jains, who are pretty peace loving from my experience.
Your attitude is a pretty common one. If anyone dares to bad mouth Israel then up comes the cry of "anti-semite".
It is exacly the same as when people complain about the behaviour of a country that just happens to be mainly Muslem. The cry then is "anto Islam". It is the same stupidity.
The cry "anti Islam" is usually bred of poor education, what is your excuse?
fahel
- 19 Apr 2010 13:01
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In The Land of the B.
I am not a Muslim I am a Christian, and I do not support any terrorist act or killing not from Hamas or Israel or anyone else which both are using the same method. you hear the news how many kids, women sick people are killed everyday, direct or indirect, (indirect while they are waiting to cross from a place to another to go to hospitals or to go to their home). This is considered killing if you keep a pregnant lady wants to deliver, and they are banned on purpose by Israeli as they leaves her waiting not allowing her to cross for few days to go to a few minutes away hospital to deliver lot of them they die with their kids in this way. is that a terror or is that Israeli rights.
I have my father house deed I still hold it till now, which is taken by Israeli and they live in it, same as my mother house and land. which is no more for us. I went there and saw the house still exist my mother house is demolished, street and other huge building is build over it. I met Arabs lives in Israel in their old houses. their old houses barley stands as they are not allowed to fix anything the municipality does not give them the authority to fix, windows broken old doors do not close electricity lights all down they even cannot change the electricity bulbs.
I am not against any religion or any living kind I am against the abuse of power which is used to take the other rights and be theres, against killing against terror act against taking the other homes and lands.
Gausie
- 19 Apr 2010 13:30
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" and I do not support any terrorist act or killing not from Hamas or Israel or anyone else which both are using the same method"
Your evenhandedness is admirable. Well done you!
A cynical man might say that given the above it's somewhat surprising that we've never seen you condemn any Hamas murders, missiles or suicide bombs on this thread - neither in Palestine, Israel, nor the rest of the world. That cynical man might go on to surmise that your claim of evenhandedness is yet more of your inane and incessant bullshit, and that you remain as bigoted, racist and partisan as you revealed yourself to be a few weeks back.
fahel
- 19 Apr 2010 15:05
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Excellent 10 minute interview with HELEN THOMAS, the longest-serving member of the White House Press Corps.
Paul Jay asks her about her first question for President Obama.
She asked President Obama to name all the countries in the Middle-East that have nuclear weapons. President Obama avoided the question by claiming that he does not want to "speculate".
Thomas claims that knowledge of Israeli nukes is very public in DC and Obama's
answer shows a lack of credibility. She explains the importance of this question
for U.S. policy in the region.
Finally, she confides that she has not been called on by the President since that day, but that if she does, she will ask him whether or not he has found any more
information about nukes in the Middle-East since their last encounter.
Click here:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25089.htm
fahel
- 19 Apr 2010 15:08
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Alarming Racism In Israel
By Stephen Lendman
4-12-10
Mossawa means equality, the Mossawa Advocacy Center promoting it for Israel's Arab citizens - about 1.5 million, comprising 20% of the population. Established in 1997, it "strives to improve the social, economic and political status of (Israeli Arabs), while preserving their national and cultural rights as Palestinians." It also promotes gender equality "in all spheres of society."
Its September 29, 2009 press release headlined the "High Follow-up Committee for Arab citizens (an organization representing Israeli Arabs) call for a general" October 1 one-day work stoppage to protest deteriorating conditions they face, and Israel's failure "to bring justice to the families of the 13 Arab victims that were killed by security forces during the events of October 2000," the start of the second Intifada.
The Committee asked all Arab institutions, organizations and businesses to honor it in opposition to Triangle and Negev area home demolitions; Galilee and Triangle area settlement building; discrimination in allocating resources; police violence, intimidation, racial, and political incitement; and the right of Arab citizens "to exist and live in dignity in their historic homeland."
Mossawa Center Calls the Current Knesset the Most Racist in History
A March 21 Jack Khoury/Dana Weiler-Polark Haaretz article headlined the above accusation, saying Mossawa's report shows "that in 2008 there were (12) bills (not 11 Haaretz reported) defined as racist," followed by 12 more in 2009, specifically against Israeli Arabs. Report authors Lizi Sagi and Nidal Othman said:
"There has never been a Knesset as active in proposing discriminating and racist legislation against the country's Arab citizens."
They accused right-wing MKs of being "unhindered via proposed legislation," many in violation of Supreme Court rulings, including cosmetically altering illegal bills to get them passed. Others trying to harm Arab citizens, segregate them from Jews, and "even call for the expulsion of the (entire) Arab population."
Further discriminatory measures target services, benefits, and imposing a year's imprisonment for anyone publishing or saying something that would "bring contempt upon or discomfort to the country."
Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz wants road signs traditionally in Hebrew, Arabic and English changed solely to Hebrew to erase their historic identity. But doing so violates the Supreme Court's recognition of Arabic as an official Israeli language.
Other measures target those who can buy land and the so-called Nakba law, watered down from its original version to exclude imprisonment, but including a provision to withhold public funding for any state-supported body holding Nakba commemorations. Arab school curricula exclude its mention, and outright banning it denies Israeli Arabs their collective identity, memory, and right to freely express opinions, especially about something this important.
The Incitement Law threatens prison for anyone denying Israel's existence as a Jewish, democratic state, and the proposed Loyalty to Israel Law rescinds citizenship for anyone unwilling to pledge it. Still another measure bans demonstrations near public officials and service provider homes as well as others responsible for public welfare. It's one step short of prohibiting all demonstrations critical of government policies.
The Prevention of Inflation Law includes provisions denying protections and care for asylum seekers, and long prison terms for convicted "infiltrators" and human rights activists helping them. Other measures affect free expression, housing, political involvement, and Bedouin rights in so-called unrecognized villages, the home for tens of thousands living under appalling conditions, compounded by involuntary dispossessions to Judaize the Negev and Galilee.
Mossawa Center's 2009 Racism Report
It began saying "almost every day" another Israeli Arab is victimized by racist actions. Mossawa documented 271 cases in various categories, confirmed by media and police reports. "Most documentation refers to events," not individuals, but their total number far exceeds the events mentioned.
Mossawa was alarmed that Occupied Territory (OPT) abuses have incrementally crossed the Green Line. Since the second Intifada's onset (after Ariel Sharon's provocative September 28 Al-Aqsa Mosque visit), few Israeli - Arab citizen confrontations occurred until Acre, Galilee's October 2008 violence. Incidents now "create separation between communities that used to" coexist peacefully. As a result, Israeli Arab citizens face disruptive social, economic and cultural futures.
Besides Acre, organized groups attacked Arab civilians in Jerusalem, Tiberias, Nazareth Illit, Carmiel and other cities - suggesting more to come unless measures are taken to curb it.
Specific Mossawa Findings
From 2000 through 2008, 42 Arab Israelis were killed. Only once was a police officer indicted and convicted, sentenced only to six months in prison for murder. Another accused officer still serves, "receiving support" from his commander.
Since trials of two officers began in 2006, judges have delayed ruling, six months after proceedings ended. As a result, 13 families of initial Intifada killings await justice despite clear Or Commission recommendations (established to investigate them) not implemented by the Attorney General.
Two Jews who killed Arabs were admitted to mental hospitals and declared unfit to stand trial. Four years after Natan Zadah killed four Arabs, investigations continue. After his death, 15 Shefaram residents were arrested on suspicion of their involvement. Four East Jerusalem Palestinians were killed after being repeatedly shot "even after they were clearly paralyzed." No investigation was conducted.
Police attacked and injured 17 Israeli Arabs, a 300% increase since 2008. During the Gaza war, police intensified violence and arrested 700 Arab citizens. Yet a small number of them were indicted.
Jewish civilians were involved in most racist incidents (about 70), up tenfold from the previous year. Most targeted Arabs and involved attacks and property destruction. The October 2008 Acre incidents resulted in over 80 people evacuated from their homes, most after being "repeatedly injured." Despite making arrests, police "failed to prevent massive confrontations" and didn't arrest youths involved in Acre and Carmiel attacks.
Knesset members, other public figures, and rabbis were involved in 29 racist incidents, especially during the Gaza war, and in the run-up to elections through mass media reports. The Central Elections Committee (CEC) took no action.
The New Israel Fund and Football Union reported 39 racist incidents during contests, not against Arabs but dark skinned targets - compared to 32 recorded 2008 cases. Another 15 incidents of "racial profiling and discrimination in services" were reported, showing a drop because courts now fine business discrimination on the basis of race.
The Supreme Court, however, hasn't addressed airport profiling.
Ten cases of religious discrimination were reported, included cemetery destruction and holy book burnings.
The 2008 Knesset introduced 12 discriminatory bills, and the Supreme Court failed to disqualify the 2003 temporary Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law, renewed every six months. It makes West Bank and Gaza Palestinians ineligible for residency permits if they marry an Israeli citizen, a measure harmful to thousands of families yearly.
Israeli Arab leaders have been systematically delegitimized. "Israeli political leaders, the government, the police and government legal advisors use the demographic threat to force their political positions on Arab minority leaders," including prohibiting their visits to regional states that don't diplomatically recognize Israel. Also forcing them to accept Israel as a Jewish state to qualify as MKs, or in other words, renounce their own heritage.
Arab leaders violating these terms are investigated to persecute and delegitimize them. During the Gaza war, police and security services made numerous arrests as a warning to local Arab leaders. In addition, for the third time since the early 1990s, the Central Elections Committee (CEC) disqualified two Arab political parties from participating in national elections. Though the Supreme Court overruled the decision, the Arab community got a chilling message, suggesting harsher measures to come.
Jews as well experienced racism, specifically Russian and Ethiopian immigrants as well as gays.
Summary of Mossawa's 2008 and 2009 Racist Incidents
-- police violence since October 2000 killing Arab Israelis: in 2008, 41; in 2009, 42;
-- other police violence against Arab Israelis: in 2008, 6; in 2009, 17;
-- Jewish civilian attacks against Arab Israelis: in 2008, 7; in 2009, 70;
-- racial incitement: in 2008, 27; in 2009, 29;
-- religious discrimination: in 2008, 8; in 2009, 10;
-- discrimination in public services: in 2008, 26; in 2009, 15;
-- football related racism: in 2008, 32; in 2009, 39 through March;
-- delegitimizations of Israeli Arab political leaders: in 2008, 15; in 2009, 23;
-- racist Knesset bills: in 2008, 12; in 2009, 12; and
-- discrimination against Russian and Ethiopian immigrants as well as gays: in 2008, 6; in 2009, 14.
Totals: in 2008, 180; in 2009, 271.
Mossawa was alarmed that Israeli Arabs are increasingly being persecuted like Occupied Palestinians - perhaps one step short of facing targeted killings, much greater dispossession rates, mass incarcerations, and torture. They're already denied rights afforded solely to Jews.
Civilized societies accept all citizens as equals, or are supposed to. Israel rejects that standard, including for disfavored Jews, shunned for more privileged ones the way America treats minorities, the poor, disadvantaged, undocumented Latino immigrants called illegal, and Muslims persecuted as terrorists.
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