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Just to explain.
50gm per tray.
20 trays per kilo
1000 kilos per tonne
20000 trays per tonne
75000 tonnes = 1500 million trays.
Alan

Alan, I agree with that.
kim

Ted1
Welcome aboard, good luck with your investment.
kim

Barney,

Don't think the UK/US billion matters, its the Tonnage of starpol which is key {~75,000 tonnes @ ~$2,000 per tonne} now was that a US ton or a UK tonne???

Metric tonne. All the notes these days are in metric. thats why the trays are measured in grammes (50) not ounces (2).
Alan

Tongue firmly in cheek alan!

Is that a UK tongue or a US tung???

:-D

The major plus seems to be that this is licence revenue and therefore goes, more or less, through to bottom line. That appears to be major advantage of SEO licensing model. Hope we might get some clarification from evolution.
Eric

Yea, we always seem to be waiting for clarification of something or other with SEO - I'm not going to be put off though.
kim

cheers all, think that is sorted, bu would be handy to ask seo Kim

If they read this BB they will be trying to pencil a couple of hours in their diary to answer my list!
kim

if they read this bb they will never call you kim, too embarressed.

Nobody has touched on the finance of the"micro-manufacturing" facilities at the JV partners who will possibly be licenced to produced ~20k tonnes of biodegradable material each.

I assume that the faciloity will cost something and SEO will have to pay a percentage of the bill.

How will X "micro-manufacturing" units be financed?

Garyble
I read it that SEO won't have to pay anything:-

"The intention is to offer a number of manufacturing licences in the US"

The joint venture would surely mean that profits would be shared? Maybe SEO will charge for the licences or offer them free in exchange for a larger share of profit, with the jv partners using technology for other purposes (probably not the latter!) Just a thought.
kim

Re working capital - the Rothschild biodegradeable cigarette butt tender process ends in a couple of months. Assuming success that will give SEO a chunk of cash, so they shouldn't have any need to seek more funds from the market.

kim - took the words out of my mouth. What we need is a million pictures for Barney to look at - after all a picture paints a thousand words, then he can count the words. Not sure SEO top management are going to take you seriously asking how many is a billion - the answer may come back "billiards"!

BTW did you know that a US pint and gallon are both 4/5ths of an English one?

sd

BTW did you know americans wear ten gallon hats on two pint heads?

My question about 500-600 machines was no misunderstanding - here's the quote from Howard White in yesterday's results:-

"I would like to give some indication of our potential market, especially in the US. We are evaluating one tray, for one customer that has a current usage of 1.5 billion units per annum.
Each tray weighs approx 50 grams and therefore consumes around 75,000 tonnes of
(non-environmentally friendly) plastic a year. It would require between 500 and
600 tray lidders to seal just these trays. We are able to offer a complete
solution through the supply chain."

Either we are talking about lidded trays (which is not any Macdonalds that I go to) or Howard's being a bit elliptical with the truth that the machines refer to the same customer as the trays.

sd

sd
I have a feeling that McDonalds are more interested in boxes for handing over the counter, not lidded trays, so are a separate entity - I hope so because that would possibly be an even bigger market when taking into consideration all the fast food outlets throughout the world.
kim