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RTD - Why? (RTD)     

Nitefly - 15 Sep 2003 10:55

Why are we again at 10.5p bid?

It doesn't add up...

Good Results + Strong buying pre results + Christmas online buying soon = Price drop

Then again some companies that have debt for equity hanging in the balance, poor results and bankruptcy around the corner and they go up!

Why sell now at a loss?

Wont that be a kick in the teeth when we see 13.5p 14p again!

Best of luck all.

parveen1 - 11 Oct 2004 09:20 - 1551 of 2406

Is there any end to this selling?

very frustrating !!!

where are the buyers?

Douggie - 11 Oct 2004 09:34 - 1552 of 2406

;-/

skyhigh - 11 Oct 2004 10:15 - 1553 of 2406

The buyers are staying away until the results of the litigation is released, the longer it goes on the more people are thinking the news will be bad. The share price then dives and people will get in then.
Let's hope the news, when it's released, is good.

apple - 11 Oct 2004 11:45 - 1554 of 2406

I still had some of these left & I sold them this morning.

Wiil be interested to see how far they fall due to litigation, they may shoot up again when it is over.

scotinvestor - 11 Oct 2004 19:52 - 1555 of 2406

This litigation will take years. Does that mean RTD share price will go even lower for at least 3 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Doh

parveen1 - 11 Oct 2004 20:32 - 1556 of 2406

Agreed scotinvestor...

But there's not a lot more for it to go down :)

then again someone decided to dump 500,000 shares

Im looking to pile into RTD big time again, just trying to get the timing right :)

I , like many more have long term faith in this company, just wished the company would come up with some positive newsflow

good luck

overgrowth - 11 Oct 2004 20:37 - 1557 of 2406

parveen1 - look closer - the 500,000 is a "worked" protected trade BUY on behalf of the institution which has been steadily accumulating chunks over the past few weeks as the small guys bale out in terror.

If these guys are buying in, they must know a bit more about certain patent infringements than we do !

parveen1 - 11 Oct 2004 23:16 - 1558 of 2406

overgrowth

From where i am looking...i see the 500K Trade as a sell
Unless you have more detailed info? and also why is the price constantly falling even if you are suggesting that these trades are buys.
The maths just does not add up for me

Could you please enlighten me with your thoughts !

Cheers

overgrowth - 12 Oct 2004 00:27 - 1559 of 2406

parveen - when you are buying a few million quid's worth of shares you do a deal in advance with the market - you agree an average price (with the proviso that you can buy at a better price should the market dictate a falling price) and then get the broker to filter in your buying chunks gradually, so as not to cause the price to rise too much and the average to be tricky for the MMs to maintain.

The best time to buy large amounts is when the crowd are selling like crazy, particularly if you know that they're misguided, your buys can then simply mop up the sells and you'll get a great deal at the end of the day.

We all know that the guys with the fund purse strings are the movers and shakers, but the last thing they want to do is move the price up if they're buying !

Douggie - 13 Oct 2004 12:07 - 1560 of 2406

;-\

overgrowth - 13 Oct 2004 20:00 - 1561 of 2406

Looks as though there are some "brave" retail buyers coming back in also, judging by the trades today.

The only bad news regarding RTD is this annoying patent hassle - without that I reckon we'd be whizzing up past 20p right now!

parveen1 - 13 Oct 2004 20:36 - 1562 of 2406

overgrowth

The 100000 buy at 13.62 do you think it was a buy or sell?

Also the spread has been very tight the last few days, can we read anything into this?

thanks

overgrowth - 13 Oct 2004 21:00 - 1563 of 2406

parveen - tricky to tell on that one, the price shows as 13.625p to be precise, i.e. smack bang in the middle of the spread. Also, the NMS is 100,000, therefore all trades will be following the market so we won't see any delaying effects.

The last 3 trades went:

Sell 3,000 at 13.5p
? 100,000 at 13.625p
Buy 100,000 at 13.75p

I would stake cash on it being a buy, because the last buyer of 100,000 had to pay 13.75p on the nail - if the penultimate trade had been a sell, then the buyer would have a better deal at the end of the day to match the price of other sells during the day.

Regarding the tight spread, this is generally good news because it means that there is a steady flow of buys and sells filling the MM's books, hence they don't need to mess around with the price too much to encourage more trading - this in turn decreases volatility and makes the share more attractive for buyers when sentiment turns (which it will - soon!).

Cheers

OG

parveen1 - 14 Oct 2004 13:06 - 1564 of 2406

:-/

i'm depressed just like dougie with the share price continually falling

anyone spare some prozac !!

blakester - 14 Oct 2004 19:23 - 1565 of 2406

AEX is where its at, dump this baby!

scotinvestor - 14 Oct 2004 20:18 - 1566 of 2406

i aint dumping RTD blakester. I bought this as a long term last year and intend to hold for another 2 years

overgrowth - 14 Oct 2004 21:24 - 1567 of 2406

...and you won't regret it scotinvestor (buy low and sell high - perfect time to top up if you ask me).

moneyman - 14 Oct 2004 22:01 - 1568 of 2406

ACM - 14 Oct'04 - 19:45 - 373 of 389


Anyone remember this from July.

LONDON (AFX) - Shares in Retail Decisions ticked modestly higher amid talk
that directors are considering a Nasdaq listing or buyout if the rating remains
low. Daniel Stewart, joint stockbroker, yesterday reiterated its 'buy' advice in the wake of the company's trading update, citing the shares' 45 pct discount to the sector.
Retail Decisions shares were 3/4 firmer at 17-3/4 pence by 7.45 am.

At 13.5p, I wonder what the directors make of this?

moneyman - 14 Oct 2004 22:02 - 1569 of 2406

Growth Dabbler - 14 Oct'04 - 21:10 - 382 of 389


GS - when the litigation is resolved that should put RTD back at about 21p.

Good results to follow will nudge the price up to around the 30p mark (Daniel Stewart's target price as I seem to recall).

The only problem is, that by the time we actually know all this for certain, the price will have stormed up before us folks who don't have the luxury of staring at trading screens all day get a look in.

The wisest advice I have ever seen is that the time to buy into a share is when the crowd have had enough (conversely the time to sell is when the crowd can't get enough - but we'll probably have to wait a months months to see this).

Folks who bought in the early twenties during the last surge should virtually all be stopped out by now. The share is too dangerous for shorting because of where it came from (i.e. 3p ish - meaning that there will be long term holders who won't have to take a loss for a long time yet - these guys are unlikely to sell unless there are adverse trading conditions suspected, so any remaining leverage is tiny). Also if anyone has been short and made a profit, they will want to close as soon as there are indications that the price is moving back up again - this in turn will create more buys. This all implies that very soon the share price will have no other place to go but up - the MM's will be itching to sell back all those shares they've bought.

Douggie - 14 Oct 2004 22:16 - 1570 of 2406

;o\ ho hummmm ...........how I wish xfinger tho.........
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