Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

This was first printed at least 50 years ago Obama being substituted for the prior subject.

It depends on why people work and whether work can be pleasurable of rewarding in itself, Also, whether the rewards from work has always to lead to personal advantage rather than getting other forms of gratification, such as seeing the benefit of the work to other members of the group.

Maggie Thatcher's "no such thing as society" culture or creed doesn't seem to have caused much joy.

Stable,

A great lesson for all and also every word is true.

I always remember reading an article many years ago showing that Communism, that most equal of proposed meaning, was the most unequal system there was.

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Sir Mick Jagger and Bob Geldof are among those holding properties worth £200bn in offshore companies

Give us the F###ing money , Geldof

I don't blame those who work any tax loophole that they can get away with, as given the chance I would also do so.
Why pay millions of pounds that you don't need to!
Blame can only lay with the Government in power, who should have closed these tax avoidance schemes years ago, but haven't because they all p**s in the same pot.

When vast amounts of money is wasted (and fiddled) by our leaders, who can blame people of they use every 'legal' way they can to avoid tax.
Morality does not come into it!

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Greek,

You seem to make you morality choices obvious.

geldof . made a fortune out of the famine the man should be taken to the cleaners .
come on osborne take millions off him the man used the starving for is own ends if he had that much money why did he not give it to them very dishonest person

Hi Mnamreh,

I like to think I have fairly high morals. All I was trying to do was state that morality very rarely if ever comes into the making or saving of money.
As to personal choice, I try to be as truthful as possible.
I try to put myself in a position of those who are often criticised by their actions.

Being honest, if I came into a vast amount of money and an accountant put a scheme to me that was 'legal' that would save me several thousand pound per year, I am sure I would look at all the fiddling b******s that run our country and decide to take the scheme.
I would ask you the same question.
If you were rich enough (you may already be) to be paying a few million in tax and was offered a 'legal' way to cut that tax bill by say a few thousand or even a couple of mil, would you take it, or take the moral high round and decide to pay every possible penny.
If your answer is pay ever possible penny, I would have no trouble with that.

Note............By legal, I am including all legal tax avoidance schemes

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Mnamreh,

I am not saying you are wrong, and I actually admire and applaud your sentiments view point and your directness.
As said though, I am being honest in stating how I would probably act, IE using every 'legal' means to pay as little tax as possible.
If I was very rich, any spare money via tax avoidance, would go direct to good causes, instead of being wasted by tax payments to the government to squander.
Note, that I do work for several good causes!
Now if our rulers were more moralistic, I might hold different views
I suppose we will have to leave it there.

Hope no hard feelings.

regards Greek.

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"When is enough enough?"

Money is like water.


It is not how much, but how it is used!

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I remember with a friend, in the 70s who had a thriving business, about taxation.

His business by its volumes produced a lot of "waste" and scrap material, which he got rid of by selling off very profitably for cash.

After doing so, for a number of years he told me that his safe had been stuffed with cash, until he developed a "touch of conscience" and became S scared that either he would be broken into, or the tax man would "cotton on".

He said it took him 2 years to realigne his books and sleep peacefully at night.

Poor B, had a coronary at 46, but died "clean".

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Only in parts, like many of us!

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I found away of useing the internet to buy anything with out paying and no come back, it is so simple

Go on then, Tanker.....

Your story is no good without a picture.

yes then ever one will know and that is no good
i am going to inform the correct people

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