Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

I bet you ate all the pies as well, H.

:o)

lol - now isn't that better - 4 posts and no nasty name calling or unpleasant accusations

Make that 5. Posts, that is, not pies.

Fat slobs, with your chips and pies.

:-)

Lunchtime!

Lets all calm down.

Its very easy to get excited on a bulletin board.However ,if we were all to sit down together,we would all get along just fine,as we would be able to put forward our individual arguments and cases as to why we feel like we do.

As stated before I lived and still work in Arab countires so get a proper view point from their side. I base my comments on what I perceive to be right and proper and wrong and one sided.

Despite being put down here, i will continue to support those who i believe to be wronged.

Yuff,

There you go again.


I don't want to calm down.


I might stop if I do.



8-)


Have a good to-morrow.

u 2 Fred!

In The Land of the B...stop talking Bull...

Haystack is bang on with what he is saying. Take religion out of all this, it's about illegal occupation, stealing land and mistreatment of the very people who accepted the so called israelis when no one else would.

I received the following email.

Quote,
There are people still have the courage to bring out the truth about Israel and the Zionist involvement in every evil act around the world, specially in the US.......
Very daring article and more interesting facts about (9-11) & the Financial crises 2008-9 by Christopher Bollyn.
Worth Reading................

The Goldman Scam & John Paulson's Links to 9-11

Thursday, April 22


Christopher Bollyn:




The latest news about the fraud at Goldman Sachs confirms what I have been saying all along about the financial "meltdown" and government bail-outs of 2008-2009 - it was a massive Zionist fraud, which I called the Fleecing of America. Will Hutton of Britain's Observer reported on 18 April 2010 in an article entitled "Now we know the truth. The financial meltdown wasn't a mistake IT WAS A CON" -

The global financial crisis, it is now clear, was caused not just by the bankers' colossal mismanagement. No, it was due also to the new financial complexity offering up the opportunity for widespread, systemic fraud...

Beneath the complexity, the charges are all rooted in the same phenomenon deception. Somebody, somewhere, was knowingly fooled by banks and bankers sometimes governments over tax, sometimes regulators and investors over the probity of balance sheets and profits and sometimes, as the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) says in Goldman's case, by creating a scheme to enrich one favoured investor at the expense of others including, via RBS, the British [and U.S.] taxpayer.

The man at the center of this particular scam is a man named John Alfred Paulson and his company. The New York Times reports that Paulson personally made an estimated $3.7 billion in 2007 as a result of his hedge funds performance, and another $2 billion in 2008. The charge is that Goldman's vice-president Fabrice Tourre created a dud financial instrument packed with valueless sub-prime mortgages at the instruction of hedge fund client Paulson, sold it to investors knowing it was valueless, and then allowed Paulson to profit from the dud financial instrument.

John Alfred Paulson
As the Observer reported on April 18:
The reality was that Paulson was frantically buying credit default swaps in the CDO that would go up in price the more valueless it became a trade that would make more than $1 billion. Worse, Paulson had identified some of the dud sub-prime mortgages that he wanted Tourre to put into the CDO. If the SEC case is true, this was a scam nothing more, nothing less.

PAULSON'S CONNECTION TO STEPHEN BERGER
Following Harvard Business School, Paulson began his career working as a Management Consultant at Boston Consulting Group from 1980 to 1982 (where Benjamin Netanyahu began his career in 1976) and as an Associate at Odyssey Partners from 1982 to 1984. Paulson's career at Odyssey Partners brought him into a small circle of Zionist finance scoundrels comprised of Stephen Berger, Leon Levy, and Jack Nash.


John Paulson and Stephen Berger joined Odyssey Partners in 1982, the year it was founded by Jack Nash (left) and Leon Levy (right).

The late Jack Nash (in 1995) was a devoted Zionist supporter and chairman of the American Friends of the Israel Museum in Jerusalem (AFIM). His wife Helen is currently a vice president of the Zionist organization, of which the Baroness Nadine de Rothschild is the Honorary President and Jo Carole Lauder, the wife of Ronald Lauder, is an executive committee board member.


Ronald Lauder, a close friend of Benjamin Netanyahu, looks pretty miserable for a multi-millionaire Zionist in his mid-60s (even with his secretive Israeli girlfriend/Mossad handler/art dealer Daniella Luxembourg). Lauder was the driving force behind the privatization of the World Trade Center, a key part of the 9-11 plot. Guilt destroys a person up from inside. There is no escape, Ron.


Lauder's full-time Mossad handler Daniella Luxembourg and "contemporary art specialist" Amalia Dayan, both of Phillips, de Pury & Luxembourg. Dayan is the grand-daughter of Moshe Dayan. The world of Zionist terrorism is small and based on certain family ties. The Zionist terrorist regime of Israel today is very much like the Sicarii Zealots of the First Century. The Sicarii were Jewish robbers and terrorists who killed other Jews to further their extremist ends. Facing the power of the Roman army, the Sicarii wound up killing hundreds of Jews in the massacre of Masada. The Israeli terrorist regime of Netanyahu and Barak uses Jews as human shields, which endangers all Jews, Zionist and non-Zionist, in the same way as the Sicarii of Masada in the First Century. Israel today is becoming more and more like one huge Masada.
...AND 9-11
Stephen Berger
Stephen Berger was executive director of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (1985-1990), the owner of the World Trade Center, when Atwell Security, a Mossad company, received the security contract in 1987. The Israel's Mossad attempt to obtain the security contract for the Port Authority in 1987 involved Mossad intelligence chief-cum-art dealer Peter Zvi Malkin. Michael Chertoff's mother, Livia Eisen, was also a Mossadnik art dealer in Elizabeth, New Jersey.
Sources and Recommended Reading:
"Now we know the truth. The financial meltdown wasn't a mistake it was a con," by Will Hutton, The Observer (U.K.), April 18, 2010

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/18/goldman-sachs-regulators-civil-charges

The Architecture of Terror: Mapping the Network Behind 9-11

http://www.bollyn.com/the-architecture-of-terror-mapping-the-network-behind-9-11

Bollyn, Christopher, The Fleecing of America: 9-11 and the Crisis on Wall Street, Chapter XI of Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World

http://www.bollyn.com/the-fleecing-of-america-9-11-and-the-crisis-on-wall-street

The Goldman Scam & John Paulson's Links to 9-11
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fahel: I get emails as credible as that one, mostly from Nigeria.

fahel: I guess you feel that the racist claptrap you've cut and pasted is credible and OK to post because instead of saying 'Jewish' it uses the word 'zionist'?

Moderators - the post two above is fahel's second post inciting racial hatred. I'm unconvinced that I've ever seen fahel post anything original, lucid, or well argued, That big red button must be getting a bit closer - and frankly MAM will be a better BB for his absence.

It is a bit rambling, racist and full of nonsense. Even though I am far from an Israel supporter, I find the post above OTT and should be removed, due to a lack of evidence for the allegations apart from anything else.

Has anyone blamed Nick Clegg for 9/11 yet?

You good folks still think I'm OTT thinking the likes of fahel and his followers aren't the type to make mass murderers and concentration camp killers? Well, exactly what type do you think they were recruited from? Doh.
fred reminds me of Eichmann with his faux-intellectualism and methodical logical systematic UNFEELING sublimation of hatred. Anyone ever read Eichmann 's testimony at his trial? Plenty of similarities.
Haymaker with his some of my best friends are Jews BUT.........
And you think I'm a nutter.
What a bunch of obsessional hate filled conspiracy theorists.

'In the land of the Nutters'

Sorry, you are misquoting me. I have never said some of my best friends are Jews BUT.....

I don't see dislike of Israel having anything to do with Jews at all. You are more extreme than anyone posting on here.

Headline

"Disingenuous needle found in haystack"

Looking for a needle where none exists.

'In the land of whatever' likes to misquote people. It is part of his tactics.

In the ?

I would think that it would be more sensible, if you concentrated on the message, rather than the messenger
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azhar,

"Taking religion out of it"

I don't think religion is the problem.

Like in Ireland, Yugoslavia and many other places, religion is the totem pole. behind which different "fanatical" groups tend to gather.

Many in Ireland values had little to do with Christianity and similar can be said of various other conflicts.

The problem is that the masses are being manipulated by a minority for the benefit of the minority.

I would think that it would be more sensible, if you concentrated on the message, rather than the messenger

Speaking as I am from the Squelchy step, I am proof that Fred concentrates on the messnger rather than the message.