LEEWINK
- 28 Mar 2004 15:45
NML is due its interrim results now, last year it was the 28th of this month.
They are setting up a new site to explore/research/analyse and all the equipment to do this should be on site now, and drilling should start soon, all this extra news should be covered in the interims.
does anyone have any further positive views on this company ??
Anomalous1
- 28 Oct 2005 10:41
- 1594 of 1909
>TheFrenchConnection
I'm not surprised that you've been offered a great deal of shares at 0.8p. According to my figures, the Market Makers have millions of them on their books and would rather not be holding them if they crash in value.
I have heard a rumour, about 20 minutes ago, that a certain Patrick(?) Johnson is buying up large amounts of NML. Even my source can't be certain if this is true, there is confusion over the similarity between this name and the Chairman of NML. However, it might be that a certain mining giant, is attempting to take advantage of the bad news expected in the finals and the dilution, to acquire a significant holding in NML and then use this to control/transfer the alluvial license.
Remember that you heard it here first!
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 10:43
- 1595 of 1909
Anomalous - I have just spoken to their Financial Director ( 07768631286) in London...I think he knows better than you when his Finals are due. You are confused about the Australian thing, as we have all pointed out to you before.
You feel free to keep doing your count-down, though..but you'll need a larger number of days available
I don't remotely try to deceive people Anom..I try to find accurate information..I leave half-truths and deception to you
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 10:53
- 1596 of 1909
The Chairman of NML is not called Patrick Johnston..he is David Johnston...
I have emailed your post above to SH..I am sure he will be interested..
bundu
- 28 Oct 2005 11:25
- 1597 of 1909
Interesting rumour Anom, but not clear about your comment - care to state it in another way?
Anomalous
- 28 Oct 2005 11:29
- 1598 of 1909
Just so everyone is clear, here is a post by Mclellan on MoneyAM earlier today:
takahe - 28 Oct 2005 10:43 - 1595 of 1596
Anomalous - I have just spoken to their Financial Director ( 07768631286) in London...I think he knows better than you when his Finals are due. You are confused about the Australian thing, as we have all pointed out to you before.
You feel free to keep doing your count-down, though..but you'll need a larger number of days available
I don't remotely try to deceive people Anom..I try to find accurate information..I leave half-truths and deception to you
and here is a post from the thread on AD^FN:
mclellan - 28 Oct'05 - 09:53 - 2414 of 2418
Finals are not due out today....
If Healy is telling you they don't have to report in October, then, as an accountant, he's certainly not telling you the full truth. Here's the proof:
These are screen dumps taken from the Australian Accounting Standards Board website
http://www.aasb.com.au
and this is from the Australian equivalent of the Companies Act which is the Commonwealth Authorities and Companies Act 1997, which can be located here:
http://www.aasb.com.au/pronouncements/standards_index.htm
As you can see quite clearly, it states that the Annual Report must be prepared and filed as follows:
The directors of a Commonwealth authority must:
(a) prepare an annual report in accordance with Schedule 1 for each financial year; and
(b) give it to the responsible Minister by the deadline for the
financial year.
The deadline is the 15th day of the 4th month after the end of the financial year.
Note: The deadline will be 15 October if the financial year ends on 30 June.
Financial year is defined in section 5.
So unless Healy and NML have filed for an extension, they must have reported by the 15th October 2005. Under the AIM regulations, price sensitive information that is freely available elsewhere must be reported to the AIM by RNS.
I think you had better get on the phone to Healy and ask if he understands the accounting law of his own country, because he shows an amazing lack of knowledge for one supposed to be a qualified accountant.
I would remind you to check the dates that the previous Finals statements were published by RNS. They are in October.
Anomalous
- 28 Oct 2005 11:34
- 1599 of 1909
bundu - 28 Oct 2005 11:25 - 1597 of 1598
Interesting rumour Anom, but not clear about your comment - care to state it in another way?
>bundu
Frankly no - the rumour is what it is. The source was not certain who the buyer might be, but we both think that it is NOT the current chairman of NML.
It is certainly possible that the people presently exploring the C9 kimberlites are interested in combining the hard rock and alluvial ore, i.e. processing both at the same time, then shipping the concentrate down the road to Catoca for final processing.
On the other hand, the person that is rumoured, may just be a UK speculator.
OR, it might be another Market Maker inspired rumour being fed out to generate sales on the last few days before the news is published.
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 11:44
- 1600 of 1909
Anomalous- RING HIM YOURSELF...why on earth would I say it, if it wasn't TRUE!
The results would come out later today, if it was the case.Wendy says you can never admit to being wrong ...
Your premise is wrong...they are AIM listed, in this country..
All you have to do is ring him...I've put up the number ..and in case you think I'm getting someone to impersonate him (!) ..check the number on the last RNS!!!! That's where I got it from..it would just take you two minutes..
Anomalous
- 28 Oct 2005 12:28
- 1601 of 1909
Some of you may have noticed that the webpage I screen-printed above was for the Corporations Act 1997 and the company is presently following the Australian Corporations Act 2001.
Just so we are clear on this, here is the screen print from the Corporations Act 2001. You can see that the reporting to members (that's the shareholders by the way - YOU) must be made by either:
a) 21 days before the AGM (which is normally held before the end of November) or
b) 4 months after the end of the financial year
WHICHEVER IS THE EARLIER
315 Deadline for reporting to members
Public companies and disclosing entities that are not registered schemes
(1) A public company, or a disclosing entity that is not a registered scheme, must report to members under section 314 by the earlier of:
(a) 21 days before the next AGM after the end of the financial year; or
(b) 4 months after the end of the financial year.
Note: For the deadline for holding an AGM, see section 250N.
Anomalous
- 28 Oct 2005 12:29
- 1602 of 1909
takahe - 28 Oct 2005 11:44 - 1600 of 1602
Anomalous- RING HIM YOURSELF...why on earth would I say it, if it wasn't TRUE!
The results would come out later today, if it was the case.Wendy says you can never admit to being wrong ...
Your premise is wrong...they are AIM listed, in this country..
All you have to do is ring him...I've put up the number ..and in case you think I'm getting someone to impersonate him (!) ..check the number on the last RNS!!!! That's where I got it from..it would just take you two minutes..
Are you seriously refuting the website and Australian law that NML operates under? - because if you are, you should check the interim accounts for NML and confirm that they are subject to the AUSTRALIAN Corporation Act 2001.
see for yourself:
http://www.new-millennium.com.au/download/financials/interim_public_nml_31_12_04.pdf
NEW MILLENNIUM RESOURCES LIMITED ABN 31 075 830 938 and Controlled Entities
please note the Australian registration number.
Auditors independence declaration under Section 307C of the Corporations Act 2001 The auditors declaration is set out on page 16 and forms part of the directors report for the half-year ended 31 December 2004.
NOTES TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE HALF-YEAR ENDED 31 DECEMBER 2004
NOTE 1: STATEMENT OF SIGNIFICANT ACCOUNTING POLICIES
(a) BASIS OF PREPARATION
The half-year consolidated financial statements are a general purpose financial report prepared in accordance with the requirements of the Corporations Act 2001, Accounting Standard AASB 1029: Interim Financial Reporting, Urgent Issues Group ConsensusViews and other authoritative pronouncements of the Australian Accounting Standards Board.
The financial report covers the economic entityof New Millennium Resources Limited and its controlled entities Angola Resources Pty Ltd and Greenland Minerals Pty Ltd. New Millennium Resources Limited isa company incorporated and domiciled in Australia and listed on the Alternative Investment Market (AIM) in the United Kingdom. Unless otherwise stated, all figures are in Australian dollars.
It is recommended that this financial report be read in conjunction with the annual financial report for theyear ended 30 June 2004 and any public announcements made by New Millennium Resources Ltd and its controlled entities during the half-year in accordance with continuous disclosure requirements arisingunder the Corporations Act 2001.
The accounting policies have been consistently applied by the entitiesin the economic entity and are consistent with those applied in the 30 June 2004 annual report except as disclosed in note 12.
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 12:37
- 1603 of 1909
Anom..just RING HEALY....he is a well-qualified Company Accountant...I would think he knows the rules as they pertain to NML...
Anomalous
- 28 Oct 2005 12:45
- 1604 of 1909
I don't need to phone him, as NML's own reports state that they are Australian domiciled and subject to the Corporation Act 2001.
I ask again - ARE YOU STATING THAT NML IS NOT SUBJECT TO AUSTRALIAN LAW AND SPECIFICALLY THE CORPORATION ACT 2001?
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 12:51
- 1605 of 1909
Anom....Since I am not remotely expert in Australian law, I can't give a meaningful comment. I would assume you are not, either. It is possibly your interpretation of it that is wrong.
I ask again...are you too scared to ring him? You don't have to give your name! Are you inferring that he didn't tell me that?
Anomalous1
- 28 Oct 2005 13:03
- 1606 of 1909
It's not a case of being scared - it's a case of the LAW.
The law is quite clear. If Healy is telling you that NML is not Australian, then prey tell us when this monumental change occurred?
If they are Australian, then the law is there in 'glorious' black and white!
Are you stating that the Corporation Act 2001 does not apply to them? Yes or No?
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 13:08
- 1607 of 1909
Anom..don't be stupid. Unlike you, I don't make judgements on half-baked information. I haven't a clue about Corporation Act 2001. All you have to do is ask Healy, not me.
Quite simple . I rang Healy..I asked him when the Finals are due..he told me..I have reported it here.
I am now going shopping!!
Anomalous1
- 28 Oct 2005 13:12
- 1608 of 1909
You refuse to answer a simple question either yes or no. I think that says more about your statements than all your communications with Healy ever could.
You refuse to acknowledge that NML is an Australian company, when their own website gives their address as:
The Head Office of NMR is located at:
Suite 5,
100 Mill Point Road,
South Perth,
Western Australia 6151
http://www.new-millennium.com.au/co_main.php
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 13:25
- 1609 of 1909
I haven't quite gone yet. You are being totally illogical. I can't answer your question ,because I don't know the answer. I stand absolutely by my statement that HEALY TOLD ME THIS MORNING , ON THE PHONE (I have given you the number) THAT NML DO NOT HAVE TO REPORT BYTHE END OF OCTOBER. As to whether he is correct or not, I can't say. He has been a company accountant for a long time!
Another poster has sent your 'Aussie rules' to someone in the Company for comment. I suggest you do the same , rather than whinging at me.... that way, you might get an accurate answer.
Anomalous1
- 28 Oct 2005 13:45
- 1610 of 1909
I'm glad that whoever sent the rules is doing so. They are quite clear, as are the interims published by the company that state that they were prepared under the Corporation Act 2001.
Nevertheless - you still have not answered my question. So I put to you another (for the second time!) -
ARE NEW MILLENNIUM RESOURCES LIMITED AN AUSTRALIAN REGISTERED COMPANY? YES OR NO?
The answer should be quite easy because all you need to do is refer to NML's own website:
http://www.new-millennium.com.au/download/financials/nmr_annual_financialreport_2004.pdf
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 14:36
- 1611 of 1909
WDurham has kindly verified that the Finals are not due until the end of December, as stated by Shane Healy in his conversation with me this morning. . Apparently it is the case that companies listed on AIM have 6 months to announce their final results to the market, and three months for Interims. This apparently applies no matter where they are incorporated.
I have asked Wendy to verify this , in person, if she has the time...
Anomalous1
- 28 Oct 2005 14:46
- 1612 of 1909
She's wrong and I'm certain of that, because I've checked with the LSE themselves.
Phone them up and check if you want. The number is 0207 797 1000 - ask for the regulation department.
The AIM rules state 6 months, but the LSE are quite clear that any company listed in London but registered elsewhere have to comply with whichever law (or rules) states that the reporting must be sooner.
In this case, although the AIM rules state 6 months, the Corporation Act 2001 takes precendence and NML MUST report (to the members - YOU) by the end of 4 months after financial year end to comply with section 315 of the Act.
If you think about it, Healy can not tell you that the reports are out tonight or on Monday, because to do so would be a breach of the Company Securities (insider dealing) Act 1985. So in order to avoid that, he should have told you he could not answer.
BUT.... if he then states that they are not due until December under the law, he is wrong IMO, because the Corporation Act 2001 states that the company must report to the members by the end of the 4th month after the end of the financial year. As such a report would be out in Australia and in the public domain it MUST be RNS'd in London to avoid any unfair advantage and to comply with the AIM rules (11).
takahe
- 28 Oct 2005 14:55
- 1613 of 1909
It is not remotely insider dealing for a company to say when their Finals are due. You are talking nonsense..again. They have UNTIL the end of December to report them. After that, they would get fined...so it could be any time from now until the end of December, I suppose. You've been telling us for weeks that their finals are due today ..and doing your exceedingly unpleasant count-downs. That is just pathetic. Most companies announce when their Finals are due, weeks in advance, as you very well know.
Why don't you just admit that you have made a mistake and leave yourself some credibilty.