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Traders Thread & Thoughts - Monday 17th May (OOM)     

Crocodile - 16 May 2004 11:03

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little woman - 17 May 2004 08:28 - 16 of 45

Insider trader - it's been a while - nice to see you back.

little woman - 17 May 2004 08:40 - 17 of 45

Just took a looke at the FTSE100 heat map all the shares are down except for 4 that are unchanged!

Insider trader - 17 May 2004 09:01 - 18 of 45

Good buying ops imo.

Melnibone - 17 May 2004 09:12 - 19 of 45

Morning all,

The bombings have skewed everything. Huge gap open down in
the US at these levels. Shock factor will have worn off by the
the time the US opens.

Agree with Insider trader. We are due a bounce at the least as
Bears take profits and bottom fishers cast their nets. Don't
know how far we bounce.
Should be some good trading opportunities here.

Melnibone.

little woman - 17 May 2004 09:41 - 20 of 45

I presume you are both refering to very short term opportunities? (i.e between now and the US opening?)

Insider trader - 17 May 2004 09:44 - 21 of 45

When there's blood on the streets......when everyone and his dog is shorting, is always the best time to look for...

little woman - 17 May 2004 10:50 - 22 of 45

Yes, unless this continues for a few more days!

ThePlayboy - 17 May 2004 11:42 - 23 of 45

inside trader a good point!

little woman - 17 May 2004 12:04 - 24 of 45

As a person who purchase shares during the last big drop (went on for nearly 2 years) as I thought they were buying opportunitities, I wish I'd waited until it was all over (early last year) before I went back in.

ThePlayboy - 17 May 2004 12:11 - 25 of 45

when will it be all over LW?thats the Q, no PPT this morning a little worrying!

little woman - 17 May 2004 12:43 - 26 of 45

PPT?

ThePlayboy - 17 May 2004 12:45 - 27 of 45

Plunge Protection Team

zarif - 17 May 2004 12:46 - 28 of 45

Lw: You are quite correct in that its no use trying to "guess the Tops or Bottoms" as it can always keep going lower or higher.As they say "dont try to catch a falling Knife".Much safer to wait for the turn get confirmation than board the bus.

rgds
zarif

little woman - 17 May 2004 12:50 - 29 of 45

I know the US using a PPT, but I didn't realise we had one in the UK.

Looking at the 2 charts below, I think if the US does go, and we follow, it won't be as bad in the UK as it will be in the US. But until the US elections in Nov, things are going to be very uncertain.

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david 2000 - 17 May 2004 13:01 - 30 of 45

Hey, TP PPT just arrived on US futs... LOL

david 2000 - 17 May 2004 13:06 - 31 of 45

PPT ON 200 MA, IMHO TP..... ROFLAO ETC ETC.

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amberjane - 17 May 2004 13:25 - 32 of 45

Afternoon all,
A day to be careful, trading and sunbathing! That suns hot today. Good luck all you shorters!

mpw777 - 17 May 2004 13:58 - 33 of 45

little woman might read page 9 of business section of yesterdays sunday times.
article by andrew smithers 'founder and chairman of smithers who advise leading fund management companies worldwide on asset allocation'.
the sunday times describes ANDREW as being the KING OF THE BEARS.

little woman - 17 May 2004 14:12 - 34 of 45

I'm actually a Bull at heart, but having not benefited from any of the bear runs over the last 20 years (and there have been many) - I don't want to get caught out ever again.

My mother doesn't believe in investing in the stockmarket as she remembers every bear run and the losses my father had on each one! Personally I'm tired of waiting for shares to recover. It's easier to cash in, most of the long term stuff, until the dust settles and go short (with a small amount) while waiting to reinvest long again.

stockbunny - 17 May 2004 15:15 - 35 of 45

See the DOW appears to be doing 'the down-hill' today, so not
much chance of the FTSE recovering any ground I suppose today.
Melnibone - charts etc above were great to read and interesting
thanks for posting.
Picked up some Billiton shares this morning (426p) - well the bargain
hunting territory was too good to waste! I'm going to re-name
Mondays to Bargain Day if this carries on as this is two weeks in a
row I have picked up a good buy at the start of the week!
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