bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
oblomov
- 21 Apr 2006 16:17
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SP up 6% so far today - like to see it do that every day for a month!
hewittalan6
- 21 Apr 2006 16:29
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According to the "rule of 72" that would make the sp 1 by 12/06 (taking into account weekends and bank holidays).
Is that a prediction, Oblo ;-)
Alan
oblomov
- 21 Apr 2006 16:32
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Not a prediction, Alan (my names not Paul) - wishful thinking, maybe!
Oilywag
- 21 Apr 2006 19:09
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PM has e-mailed to say that WalMart and Tyson Foods are arriving in the UK next week to view Stanelco products.
If this is true, I wonder why they do not have samples of the products in the US!!??. What a waste of executive time!
Anyway this is a clip from Tyson's web site:
2005 Sustainability Report .... http://www.tyson.com/Corporate/PressRoom/docs/SR2005.pdf
and .........
Tyson Foods, Inc. [NYSE: TSN], founded in 1935 with headquarters in Springdale, Arkansas, is the world's largest processor and marketer of chicken, beef, and pork, the second-largest food company in the Fortune 500 and a member of the S&P 500. The company produces a wide variety of protein-based and prepared food products, which are marketed under the "Powered by Tyson" strategy. Tyson is the recognized market leader in the retail and foodservice markets it serves, providing products and service to customers throughout the United States and more than 80 countries.
The company has approximately 114,000 Team Members employed at more than 300 facilities and offices in the United States and around the world. Through its Core Values, Code of Conduct and Team Member Bill of Rights, Tyson strives to operate with integrity and trust and is committed to creating value for its shareholders, customers and Team Members. The company also strives to be faith-friendly, provide a safe work environment and serve as stewards of the animals, land and environment entrusted to it.
Living Our Core Values
Sustainability is an important part of the culture at Tyson Foods, and we take very seriously the company's responsibilities to customers, shareholders, Team Members, and the communities where we live and work.
Our Sustainability Report document provides an overview of the company's efforts to support environmental stewardship, social progress, and economic growth. The information in this report, unless otherwise noted, covers fiscal year (FY) 2005 (October 3, 2004 to October 1, 2005). It primarily focuses on Tyson operations within the United States, with some additional information provided on international operations.
We encourage you to read this report to learn more about what Tyson Foods is doing now, and what we plan to do in the future, to strive toward sustainability
If WalMart are working in tandem with Tyson and they do a deal I guess the share price might tick up a .25p.
The oily one
Tonyrelaxes
- 21 Apr 2006 19:53
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Oily
I am sure there are samples in USA but probably not the process machinery and equipment other than for Greenseal, of which I believe there is a working machine in USA.
Maybe the visiting execs want a free jolly to Europe so offered to come. Why not?Southampton can be quite nice at this time of year.
Oilywag
- 23 Apr 2006 18:09
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Afternoon all
Thinking caps time.
In the hope that I shall be able to attend the AGM meeting on 2nd May, lets be having your questions to put to the directors.
Try and make them as penetrative as possible to put them on the spot.
Anybody else going, let me know so that we can arrange to meet up.
The oily one
JohnScarrott
- 23 Apr 2006 20:58
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Oilywag,
Can you ask them :-
How many companies are they in talks with for micro-manufacturing units for Starpol in the USA.
How many tons of Starpol they are aiming for this year in the USA.
Are they looking at starting micro-manufacturing outside the USA this year, and if so, where.
How many companies are involved in the bidding for the fiter and tow IP, and how is that progressing.
How many suppliers in the UK/USA/elsewhere are looking at Greenseal.
Ta :)
EWRobson
- 23 Apr 2006 21:48
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Oilywag: I had assumed that Tyson would be looking at the Starpol micro-plant with a view to installation. If so, this is very positive news and likely to help the sp as soon as the news is broadcast.
Eric
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2006 11:54
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Market is reasonably OK but on relatively small volumes. Strange given that the WalMart/Tyson visit must be hugely significant. PM suggests its about Greenseal but they can see the hardware in US. They must be over here to view Starpol micro-plants. It also makes more sense that Tyson will want to use Starpol on existing equipment. If this happens then it will be mega for the SP given their volume as largest WM supplier of meat. Money where mouth is? Yes, have topped up this morning!
Eric
JJS
- 24 Apr 2006 12:22
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I think Tyson are in the UK to view Greenseal running in a commercial environment, at full speed, with no problems, and at Starpol coming off ASDA commercial test lines.
In the USA all they can see is a machine installed at AEIS, a machine that is not in full speed commercial production, and is in a controlled environment, not a very cold supplier factory.
I doubt they would be interested in seeing micro-manufacturing of Starpol (I also doubt there is anywhere to see this in the UK), all they want is to see the end product, trays and film, before and after filling and sealing on a commercial production line, like they can at ASDA. Bear in mind that Tyson is a meat processor, not a tray and film manufacturer.
If they have the confidence to bring Wal*Mart and Tyson to the UK to see Greenseal, then Greenseal must now be problem free, which also means those UK orders for 40 and 50 machines should come in soon too.
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2006 12:45
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JJS: Thanks for that which is clearly informed comment. My understanding has been that the micro-plants for Starpol were to be installed at suppliers as the most efficient method of supply (reference announcement of such plants in US). Is the Welsh plant not a reference point? Starpol certainly goes with Greenseal but presumably is not dependent on R/F conversions; i.e. can they not use existing machines to get the bio-degradable capability and do R/F as stage 2?
It would be good to get the head around the opportunity so that this time our expectations are more realisitic. I do feel though that better news is not that far away.
Eric
greekman
- 24 Apr 2006 15:51
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Eric,JJS,
Both good points and posts. I think ( hope ) it could be a bit of both. After all why not kill two birds with one visit, so to speak, ie to view a micro-plant, and Greenseal running in a commercial environment, at full speed. All the little bits over the last year appear to be coming together nicely.
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2006 16:24
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EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2006 16:27
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Di: super to have you back. Your prescience is remarkable: out at the right time; back in at the right time, hopefully. greekman has it right. The hand of cards is good with plenty of trumps; last time they built a house of cards on poor foundations. This time they seem to be getting it right.
Eric
JJS
- 24 Apr 2006 17:14
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Eric,
Yes the micro manufacturing will be in suppliers factories, not at the suppliers of food to Wal*Mart, but at the suppliers of film and trays to the food processors.
I still doubt there is anywhere in the UK where Starpol is currently being formed into trays and film, the plant in Wales is going to be a while before it is commisioned, and I think all ASDA trays and film for trials is being shipped in from Biotec.
I still see no point in Tyson looking at a micro-manufacturing plant, it's not really their bag, they chop up animals and pack them in gas, they don't make trays and film, but they would be very interested in seeing full speed commercial production, with Starpol trays and film being Greensealed :)
Think about that one tray in the EVO note, 75,000 tons of Starpol and 500 Greenseal conversions, not bad for the first US order !
greekman
- 24 Apr 2006 17:26
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I knew Walmart were big, but not that big. ( The following brief extract is taken from an article by Stephen Lendham Vheadlines.com ). It's Dated today. Just look how Walmart have expanded from 1999 to 2005.
Of the world's 100 largest economies, 51 are corporations.
The combined sales of the world's biggest 200 corporations (called "The Group" ) in 1999 equaled 27.5% of world Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and are growing faster than overall global economic activity.
The Group's combined sales exceed the total combined economies of all nations in the world except the largest 10.
The largest employer in the world, Walmart, employed 1,140,000 in 1999 (1.6 million in 2005) or 5% of The Group's total employment.
End of extract.
If/when SEO do get Walmart contracts signed and sealed, it can only be the start of something massive. Notice the if/when. I am as confident in SEO as I have ever been, but as we all know nothing is certain.
greekman
- 24 Apr 2006 17:37
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JJS,
Re Tyson....Tyson and many other companies may soon have to alter their pack in gas packaging if the scare stories re this gas gather momentum. It's been shown that these gases mask quality, conditioned meats.
Ban Sought on Use of Carbon Monoxide to Fix Meat Color
Published on: February 21, 2006
Millions of Americans may be buying beef or seafood that has been treated with carbon monoxide as a "pigment fixative" in other words, carbon monoxide has been used to keep the product's pink or rosy color in an effort to keep it looking fresh. The problem is that sometimes the color may be fresh-looking, but the meat or seafood may actually be spoiled. Critics are challenging the Food and Drug Administration and the nation's powerful meat industry, saying the agency violated its own rules by allowing the practice without a formal evaluation of its impact on consumer safety.