bosley
- 20 Feb 2004 09:34
greekman
- 24 Apr 2006 15:51
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Eric,JJS,
Both good points and posts. I think ( hope ) it could be a bit of both. After all why not kill two birds with one visit, so to speak, ie to view a micro-plant, and Greenseal running in a commercial environment, at full speed. All the little bits over the last year appear to be coming together nicely.
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2006 16:24
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EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2006 16:27
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Di: super to have you back. Your prescience is remarkable: out at the right time; back in at the right time, hopefully. greekman has it right. The hand of cards is good with plenty of trumps; last time they built a house of cards on poor foundations. This time they seem to be getting it right.
Eric
JJS
- 24 Apr 2006 17:14
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Eric,
Yes the micro manufacturing will be in suppliers factories, not at the suppliers of food to Wal*Mart, but at the suppliers of film and trays to the food processors.
I still doubt there is anywhere in the UK where Starpol is currently being formed into trays and film, the plant in Wales is going to be a while before it is commisioned, and I think all ASDA trays and film for trials is being shipped in from Biotec.
I still see no point in Tyson looking at a micro-manufacturing plant, it's not really their bag, they chop up animals and pack them in gas, they don't make trays and film, but they would be very interested in seeing full speed commercial production, with Starpol trays and film being Greensealed :)
Think about that one tray in the EVO note, 75,000 tons of Starpol and 500 Greenseal conversions, not bad for the first US order !
greekman
- 24 Apr 2006 17:26
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I knew Walmart were big, but not that big. ( The following brief extract is taken from an article by Stephen Lendham Vheadlines.com ). It's Dated today. Just look how Walmart have expanded from 1999 to 2005.
Of the world's 100 largest economies, 51 are corporations.
The combined sales of the world's biggest 200 corporations (called "The Group" ) in 1999 equaled 27.5% of world Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and are growing faster than overall global economic activity.
The Group's combined sales exceed the total combined economies of all nations in the world except the largest 10.
The largest employer in the world, Walmart, employed 1,140,000 in 1999 (1.6 million in 2005) or 5% of The Group's total employment.
End of extract.
If/when SEO do get Walmart contracts signed and sealed, it can only be the start of something massive. Notice the if/when. I am as confident in SEO as I have ever been, but as we all know nothing is certain.
greekman
- 24 Apr 2006 17:37
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JJS,
Re Tyson....Tyson and many other companies may soon have to alter their pack in gas packaging if the scare stories re this gas gather momentum. It's been shown that these gases mask quality, conditioned meats.
Ban Sought on Use of Carbon Monoxide to Fix Meat Color
Published on: February 21, 2006
Millions of Americans may be buying beef or seafood that has been treated with carbon monoxide as a "pigment fixative" in other words, carbon monoxide has been used to keep the product's pink or rosy color in an effort to keep it looking fresh. The problem is that sometimes the color may be fresh-looking, but the meat or seafood may actually be spoiled. Critics are challenging the Food and Drug Administration and the nation's powerful meat industry, saying the agency violated its own rules by allowing the practice without a formal evaluation of its impact on consumer safety.
Oilywag
- 24 Apr 2006 18:27
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If memory serves me correct in the latest EVO report, it mentioned that three of SEO's the five main products are rated as best in the world ... at present ... for the solutions they provide.
If WalMart does place an order with SEO, given their size and power, surely, or just maybe, Starpol and Greenseal will become one of the de facto standards for packaging around the world for companies that are being environmentally sound.
The oily one
PS Any more questions for the AGM?
JJS
- 24 Apr 2006 18:38
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Greekman,
Very true, I think Carbonmonoxide will be banned, and that will mean packers and retailers looking for something that can prolong shelf life and taste, without the negatives of Carbonmonoxide, ie Greenseal.
EWRobson
- 24 Apr 2006 18:42
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Great reading some encouraging posts. So thanks to JJS, greekman, oilywag. Plus, dynamite of course who goes where the explosive action is! I expect what WalMart want, Tyson give them. I expect what Tyson want, their packaging supplier gives them. By gum, the mind boggles at the future for Stanelco.
Eric
JJS
- 24 Apr 2006 18:45
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Oily,
The EVO note said the following
"We have had detailed discussions with one of Stanelco's major US supporters, a household name with sales over 10Bn. It's head of packaging and development rated Stanelco a world leader in 3 out of 5 categories of sustainable products. This has given us great confidence in Stanelco's near-term prospects in North America"
JJS
- 24 Apr 2006 18:47
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P.S. I think that household name could be Perseco
Oilywag
- 24 Apr 2006 18:59
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JJS
Thanks for blowing the cobwebs from my mind. I've edited my previous post to correct the error.
The oily one
Mad Pad
- 24 Apr 2006 19:01
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Oilywag I will try to get to the AGM but don't land at LHR till 1300 so will be cutting it a bit fine.Look out for a late arrival with a black bag!Hope you will post any replies, you might be lucky enough to get,here in any event. Many thanks in anticipation.Mad Pad.
niceonecyril
- 24 Apr 2006 23:12
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From advfn,
http://www.packstrat.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/98edc99739eaa010VgnVCM100000f932a8c0
cyril
rmhyams
- 24 Apr 2006 23:56
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For Oilywag.
Please ask the Directors the following:
1. Why have the company changed their stance regarding the lack of updates in the last year.
2. What are the problems with Greenseal? When will the company sort them out? Don't take any bull. (They obviously haven't or else there would have been an RNS to say that they had).
3. Given that the company has a lot of potentially commercial products, why hasn't the company sorted out their management structure to reflect the incredible possibilties the company has, and so minimize the poor publicity the company has.
4. Please ask Howard White why he is residing in the UK, and making the occasional trips to the USA. As he is President of Starpol USA, I would have assumed that he was living in the USA and making the occasional trip to the UK. Not good.
5. Martin Wagner was originally taken on to implement the commercialization of Greenseal. Then he was promoted to CEO. Who is now responsible for the commercialisation? And what is Ian Balchin doing nowadays?
I have been very long in Stanelco for a couple of years, and am disappointed in the lack of progress, and information, coming out of the company.
Please don't let the directors fob you off with non answers. If necessary keep asking the question until you get a proper answer. Sorry to be pedantic but we have had little reassurance from the directors for a long time.