wilco99
- 12 Sep 2003 15:52
ASOS have dropped quite significantly in the past week for no particular reason and I view this as the perfect opportunity to invest as I can see them bouncing right back up to the 5.50p mark in the next 2-3 weeks. STRONG BUY!!
stockdog
- 11 Oct 2005 18:10
- 1623 of 5941
And AGM held at new warehouse in Hertfordshire(?) or somewhere close. Would like to go, but something's cropped up I can't get out of in town. Anyone else going?
Are you still holding, Eric? Taken a bit of a tumble at the end of September, but perked up over the last week, esepcially today. Who knows - not me for sure. I guess it will be the old sell on fact after the AGM unless they knock our socks off with unexpectedly good figures. Will it ever reach 1??
sd
EWRobson
- 11 Oct 2005 19:07
- 1624 of 5941
sd - my old friend! Still in but relatively small volume. Sum invested well down, what with withdrawal of funds (including this lovely house I am sitting in in Phuket) and the drop in SEO - fortunately out before the major carnage. Have just pointed out over there the parallel with fall out with ASOS which was overdone. I now see ASC as still undervalued on the basis of volume growth and probably improved margins in the same order as last year. There is no hype left in the sp which is a good thing but I can see good results being met with a deafening silence. Feel confident enough about Monday to go long if I had the funds available to do so! By the way the meeting is at the new warehouse so I hope there will be someone there to report back.
Eric
stockdog
- 11 Oct 2005 19:18
- 1625 of 5941
ASC (last year) and DGT and SEO this year all have a very similar shape to them - very exciting
rise ont he thermals of hot sentiment followed by inexplicable fall back to modest levels.
Let's hope SEO and DGT follow ASC's example for the next phase.
Rather be in Phuket than SEO this week!
sd
Dil
- 11 Oct 2005 23:46
- 1626 of 5941
Hi guys.
Not trying to wind anyone up but only just read the posts since my last comment in July and still think these are a pile of sh*te and a disaster waiting to happen.
I have not been in the market for a while so cannot comment on chart as I haven't looked recently but will look tomorrow , opinion has always in this case been based on fundamentals and if you check back I called them crap on the way up but said I would never try and fight the trend.
Good luck (cept queeny , lol).
Dil
- 11 Oct 2005 23:49
- 1627 of 5941
And not sure who asked for justification for July comment but if they cared to check the thread then I gave it when I first posted here in what I thought Iwas a very amicable debate with EW and a few other genuine investors.
Regards
Dil
- 11 Oct 2005 23:51
- 1628 of 5941
Should have guessed ... it was queeny
"queen1 - 17 Jul 2005 13:14 - 1566 of 1627
Oh that's all we need - Dil and his blatant de-ramping. Please, other long-term holders of ASC and contributors to this thread, don't listen to the man. He has an agenda and will slag off the share without backing up his comments, just as above."
EWRobson
- 13 Oct 2005 17:39
- 1629 of 5941
dil Good to hear from yo0u but surprised at the negative comment. My views, expressed recently is that the share is good value now on fundamentals and should be a definite buy after Monday's AGM with trading statment. I expect analyst forecasts to be upgraded as they do not reflect the improved margins from new warehouse, etc. and the year on year trading improvements exhibited on the hitwise charts. You seem to have a different hymn sheet; but then, being Welsh, you are probably still singing from Cwm Rondhha! Perhaps sd can give us a rendition, with appropriate yowling conclusion!
Eric
stockdog
- 13 Oct 2005 20:15
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I can only be induced to sing Cum Dividend, sorry to disappoint!
sd
Dil
- 13 Oct 2005 23:36
- 1631 of 5941
I do have one slight reservation with my analysis EW but not enough to make me change my opinion ... yet.
Good luck.
SEADOG
- 14 Oct 2005 08:12
- 1632 of 5941
Eric,
This SD is a Londoner (Chiswick W4) Wales my adopted country ( Free House!!!)..SD
stockdog
- 14 Oct 2005 15:45
- 1633 of 5941
Dil - there are two things that rise to the top, cream and scum, as my fathher used to say.
Who cares, so long as they rise? I think you should have looked at the chart before you posted. One more push through the recent intraday high of 80p and we're back to the old high ground of the end of last year, on fundamentals greatly improved by ever increasing customers/visitors and a new warehouse.
Not a good day to sell in my humble opinion.
(On the other hand, if it falls back through the recent 65p low, then it's time to take a back seat on it till the next upswing.)
sd
Dil
- 14 Oct 2005 16:46
- 1634 of 5941
sd , I looked at the chart a long time ago ... this time last year and as I said then I wouldn't argue with it.
EWRobson
- 15 Oct 2005 09:33
- 1635 of 5941
dil: you can't look at a chart a year ago and come back with it etched on your memory. Well, perhaps you can but that's not good investment tactics. A year ago expectation had built up, not necessarily to an unsustainable level but a level that couldn't cope with subsequent warehouse problems. As is the norm, the reaction was then overdone, before the sp has climbed back to the evel a year ago without the hype present then. We will know more on Monday so should wait for then - who says to whom 'I told you so!'? A super company that is going places - good to have that sensible welshman, SD, on board. What, i says is, Cwm on ASOS.
Eric
Dil
- 15 Oct 2005 12:05
- 1636 of 5941
No what I was saying EW was that I didn't like the company a year ago but the chart was screaming buy and I wasn't going to argue with that.
SEADOG
- 16 Oct 2005 09:11
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Looking forward to tomorrow to see what the AGM brings forth, can't exactly say that this particular company is good at promoting itself, it has an abyssmal PR department, if any at all. My charts say "Buy" the same as everyone else but I would still like to see more good press releases to keep people in the picture. Communication is so easy now....SD
EWRobson
- 16 Oct 2005 14:59
- 1638 of 5941
SD The share was somewhat over-hyped a year ago as we have found with SEO this year. I personally prefer the current situation where the market really only reacts to a change in fundamentals. Thus, with my own expectation for tomorrow ahead of the market, I feel more confident that the market will respond positively to good news.
Dil: Not a problem. Take a good look tomorrow, i suggest, as the market could be slow to respond in terms of a re-rating: may want to wait for the Xmas season given the problems last year.
Eric
Treblewide
- 16 Oct 2005 22:18
- 1639 of 5941
dil old bean i bought these at 70p not long ago....they are aimed at the younger "trendy end" of the market so I would expect you dont like them :-)
my missus must have spent enough on the site in the last year to double their bloody turnover.
Dil
- 16 Oct 2005 23:25
- 1640 of 5941
lol , sorry to hear that Treb.
stockdog
- 16 Oct 2005 23:42
- 1641 of 5941
Treb
Many years a go now, with equal thoughts of doubled turnover in mind, I did attempt to launch a similar enterprise called ASOW (As Seen On Wife) but strangely, fashion being the fickle temptress that we all wish to encounter one dark night but never during the hours of daylight, the merchandising left a lot to be desired. It did however match up to my experience of the marital overdraft very shortly after launch.
Be careful - you may get what you wish for!
Here's to a highly prospective AGM tomorrow.
sd
stockdog
- 17 Oct 2005 07:40
- 1642 of 5941
Applying the announced 86% year on year increase in turnover to the finals, we get a projected turnover to March 2006 of about 25m, with a gross profit (slightly improved from 48% to 50%) of 12.5m.
Allowing last year's operating costs of 5.5m plus, conservatively, 1.5m for 6 new staff and increased cost of new warehousing and logistic systems, plus amortisation of 0.228m and interest received of, say 50,000, we get a net profit before tax of 5.322m.
With 75m shares in issue, this equates to an eps of 7.1p. With a relatively modest PE of, say, 15, we can project an SP of about 106p, 39% up on Friday's close.
How much value (or diminution thereof!) do we set by NR's rather downbeat closing remarks.
"I remain optimistic about the long term prospects for ASOS and we are putting in
the building blocks now to support continued high levels of growth. That said,
our first half performance should not necessarily be taken as an indication of
the outcome for the full year, especially with tougher comparables ahead and the
all important Christmas trading period still to come."
Does he expect turnover to actually fall in H2 from H1, or merely not increase at the same rate as H1 05/06 has over H1 04/05?
Anyone any alternative figures to suggest?
sd