for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

Pack Expo International is one of the biggest, if not the biggest exhibition in the World with several hundred exhibitors. I can't find any reference under exhibitors listed to Stanelco or any linked company. Looking at the site I initially found that unbelievable. Why wouldnt Stanelco be at one of the largest packaging showcases of the year?
I then considered a different scenario. Perhaps SEO know that it would be a waste of time, money and effort. What if there is such a queue of potential customers wanting trials say over the next 12 months, they know that there is no point in looking for extra customers. There is no point in attracting potential customers if you then have to turn them away in the short to medium term. Stanelco's biggest showcase ever will be if/when Walmart get on board. I wonder how many companies are now following Stanelco's progress, with Greenseal and Starpol.
We have already received plenty of hints (ok rumors perhaps) of other such companys interest, McDonalds for one example. When the exclusive tie-in period Seo/Asda is completed, there will be in my opin'ion a large queue forming at Seo's checkout for their products. Obviously all imho, and I welcome any other thoughts from fellow posters.

http://pei2006.packexpo.com/packaging_suppliers/find/byname/M.html

Possibly comes down to manpower, greekman. with SEO having to man so many fronts at present. When reading about SEO in talks and meetings with the like of WM, McD, etc I think we tend to forget what a tiny setup they are. Does anyone know the total number of employees?

Hopefully they are using their manpower to concentrate on the important areas rather then spread themselves to thinly. They cant be everywhere.

Oblomov,

Yes, that's what I was saying. They are as you say a small company. They are I hope being carefull that they don't overstretch themselves. If they get as big as their potential appears to be who knows.

Oblomov,

Last I heard there were 46 staff, hopefully a few more sales people now.

Oblomov,

Thanks for failing so dismally at your challenge, says it all about you really.


JJS - 10 May 2006 12:40 - 16402 of 16453

Oblomov,

Here's a challenge for you, though I fully expect you to fail.

Don't mention PM1 in any post for a whole week



oblomov - 10 May 2006 20:01 - 16442 of 16453

Thats more like the Old PM1 I knew!

Oblo,

From the 2005 annual report:
3. DIRECTORS AND EMPLOYEES
The average weekly number of persons (including Directors) employed by the Group during the year was:

Management 13
Administration 8
Sales 3
Manufacturing and engineering 28
TOTAL: 52

Garyble,

Thanks for clarifying that :)

With only 13 Management and 3 Sales they must be working their socks off getting round all these meetings with Walmart and its suppliers, Perseco and its suppliers, ASDA, and all the other prospective clients. No wonder they called in Graham Whitchurch to help, probably a few others from around the group too !

Interesting

http://www.nnfcc.co.uk/nnfcclibrary/events/download.cfm?id=42

http://nnfcc.co.uk/nnfcclibrary/events/download.cfm?id=32

Tesco to make plastic bags biodegradable
Thursday, 11 May 2006 08:43

Ok, we have seen same comments already, but yet another story re the Tesco push for environmentally friendly bio-gradeable bags. This release gives a timetable of from September. Don't remember if any date was mentioned in the previous releases.

http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/news/buisness/tesco-make-plastic-bags-biodegradable-$431176.htm

Thanks Gary, Thanks JJS, for the staffing figures. I'm surprised its that many, but still shows how thinly spread they must be given the various fronts they are trying to develop. No time nor manpower for every packaging show.

JJS, I haven't failed anything, let alone dismally! The deal was I wouldn't mention PM1 if you didn't continue to impersonate him - takes two to make a deal!

JJS, Oblomov,

Not taking sides but can you both agree to call it a draw.
I value your contributions as the vast majority of the time you both post interesting stuff, but this spat is spoiling things a tad.
Please either of you, don't take offense, as none intended.

A nice 500k buy at 13.5p just hit the screen :)

Greekman,

It's Oblomov that has this petty, never ending, 'hurl abuse at PM' syndrome, when he's not here to reply.

Considering all the research that PM has done, including setting up a website for it, and a discussion board for those who want to avoid the bashers and idiots, and sent several good ideas to Stanelco, several of which are now in R&D, and could add significantly to the SP if they are commercialised, you would think Oblomov would be grateful !!

Hi JJS,

As said not taking sides, but I do agree PM1 put far more positive input into this share discussion than negative input. I just don't want things to go the same way as they did on that other ( won't mention the name ) investment site. On that same site it was a SS who continually spoiled the thread. I squelched him, but left that site for good due to many posters replying to said person.
Again not saying either of you are spoiling the thread, far from it, but it could head the same way. But I will shut up on this now.

No offence taken, greekman. I hadn't realised it was a spat - just a fairly harmless bit of fun, no more serious than the Eric and Hattie posts. I am a little surprised at how sensitive JJS is of PM1, however. Make of that whatever you will - I just like to see a balanced opinion rather than ramping, hence my posts and hence the mention of PM1.

JJS, chill out, no offence intended - all my posts are posted with a smile on my face (except those relating to a poor SP and lack of signed contracts, maybe).

Ok,

Thanks to both for getting back to me without having a go.

Interesting: the first commercial Greenseal machine in 8 weeks, say end July; current ASDA exclusivity ends 31st July (I believe); so both coincide. Promise of additional 2 months give end September. Also gives time to set up additional contracts based on deliverables. Essentially a year behind and it seems that the idea of retrofitting has gone by the board? Can they pick up the deliveries according to the earlier projections - may be. I have the feeling that matters are coming out well for SEO: they are less exposed compared with what might have been; ASDA have been extremely patient; there has clearly been sufficient proof of efficacy to draw in Walmart. The lessons will have been patient but not costly - compared wioth those of us who beleived their expectations. I actually don't put it down to hype but, as acknowledged, to naivete. They just haven't moved in this sort of 'dirty' market. Fortunately for them, and us, the early promise brought Biotech into the fold and we are now looking at potential which appears to dwarf Greenseal. I accept I came back in too early but now comfortable that the sp has bottomed out and that a significant move forward will happen and probably in next three months or so.

Eric

Eric,

The main question for me in the shortest term, is whether Grampian Foods will now order 40 or 50 machines, as they are obviously happy enough with their machine(s) to allow Walmart to view them, check the quality of the output, and question the staff.

I have asked Stanelco if they can clarify when the ASDA exclusivity will expire, and I will let you know if they get back with anything definate.

JJS,

Just one final post on PM1 then I'll let it go. Just so you know why I have the opinion of him I have and what he's capable of, have a look at this thread, read it carefully and then you may view him differently. No need to comment.

http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=8133

Looking at L2 we will be lucky if this finishes level