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A new non-java Stockwatch is ready to try out - Technical Beta Test     

IanT(MoneyAM) - 29 Jan 2014 07:42

As I'm sure you are aware, we and many of you have had a long and tiresome battle with Java when trying to use our streaming services. We have therefore been working on a solution to remove this problem.

We are pleased to announce that we have a new stockwatch available for use which no longer uses Java. We are currently making this available as a technical beta version, which means we are interested in your feedback regarding performance, bugs and browser/operating system/device compatibility issues (note: design and styling will be addressed in later beta releases).

For the purpose of allowing the old and new stockwatch versions to run concurrently, the technical functionality of the new stockwatch mimics the old one for now (not style, fonts or look). Editing and managing watchlists uses the same process as the current java stockwatch but is now at the top of the page. This will allow you to switch between the versions should you have any problems. All technical features of the current stockwatch are available in the new version except for the ability to drag resize columns. In the near future and as we migrate away from the java version of stockwatch, we will add new usability features as well as design it up to make the whole stockwatch experience smoother than it has ever been.

As this new version does not require java, you should expect it to work on your android devices and ipad/iphones. For now the display has not been optimised for smaller screens, but this will come in future development.

NOTE: Due to javascript performance in Internet Explorer 8, this new stockwatch can cause high CPU load. We recommend you use a current version of a modern browser such as Google Chrome or Mozilla Firefox for best results.

The new version can be found on the following link:

http://www.moneyam.com/stockwatch/beta.php

NOTE: Non java versions of streaming trades, streaming news and level 2 will be released over the coming weeks.

Please do not worry about design/style at the moment as this version has not been styled it is purely a technical beta test environment it will be styled before it is released. We have put this here purely for feedback on its technical functionality i.e does it work in your browser and on your PC/Laptop/Tablet/Mobile

Please post your technical feedback in this discussion thread

Thank you for your feedback and we hope you enjoy it

pbridle - 04 Feb 2014 09:25 - 165 of 734

Ian
Great improvement (I’m using Firefox in W8.1). Watch List scrolling can be achieved without waiting for the screen to do multiple refreshes. Also prefer the Watch list menu choices at the top of the screen.

Only one slight niggle so far – the pop-up ‘note’ window (which I use a lot - perhaps I'm in the minority) looks to be smaller than in the Java version. The text within the box is not very pronounced and the ‘Note’ box within the pop up requires scrolling to see all the contents.

yuff - 04 Feb 2014 10:02 - 166 of 734

Can't get level 2 Ian ??

IanT(MoneyAM) - 04 Feb 2014 10:04 - 167 of 734

yuff - can you log off and back on to see if that helps,

Ian

dell314 - 04 Feb 2014 10:13 - 168 of 734

Thanks for narrowing the stock name column, so I can trial the new stockwatch properly.

I know layout isn't important for the beta test, but having the news flag the wrong side of the chart,trades and L2 buttons is a bad move IMO as news is much more important and I usually scroll the chart,trades and L2 buttons out of view to keep column widths down.

Also, I'm finding reading the new stockwatch to be more effort.

This is due to several factors.

1. Company names in all capitals are harder to read quickly. There's a whole body of research that shows reading comprehension is much quicker with lower case text.

2. The horizontal spacing between lines is less than on the Java version making read across less easy.

3. I found the pale blue horizontal stripes easier on the eye than the new grey ones but that might just be personal preference.

I'd suggest adjusting company names to lower case ASAP (as they were in the Java version) as it might be possible to mentally adjust for the other changes if company names can be visually scanned faster.

Running the same group of watchlists and L2 in firefox/XP results in considerably less memory use than Java stockwatch & IE8/XP, but CPU usage is way, way higher causing my CPU fan to run much faster.

George (ex MoneyAM) - 04 Feb 2014 10:34 - 169 of 734

pbridle: Adjusting the Note window was on our todo list and has now been resolved and deployed.

George (ex MoneyAM) - 04 Feb 2014 10:58 - 170 of 734

dell314: In response to your comments.
1) Company Names actually come on the feed from the supplier in upper case. The Java applet changed them to title case but this didn't always lead to accurate names e.g. Usd instead of USD in places. We have chosen for now to display the name as they are provided to us in full.

2) Yes, the horizontal spacing is 1 pixel less per line. It can allow a few more stocks to be displayed on a page without vertical scrolling. If other people complain too we will add the pixel back. I don't know if you noticed but if you mouse over a row it highlights it in yellow. This should help you read across.

3) This style matches that of the stock price page. The old blue colour is no longer in use on any part of the site so it looks out of place. Again, maybe use the mouse-over row highlighting to help you.

4) IE8 has a terribly slow javascript engine and won't work well with larger watchlists with lots of columns. You should be able to use it ok with up to 10 stocks and filtered columns. The best resolution though is to use another browser.

5) The N flag being on the left was a more suitable option for the HTML version. It was a decision based on the technical problems of having it the other way around and we considered there was no real trade off. Sorry if it doesn't suit the way you scroll across.

Activmoto - 04 Feb 2014 11:53 - 171 of 734

Had to log in twice this morning. Has the old problem returned?

Pbroka - 04 Feb 2014 12:12 - 172 of 734

Seems to work very well. Thanks. Thoroughly fed up with java.

Mo06 - 04 Feb 2014 12:15 - 173 of 734

Hello, I am finding that I keep getting logged out of the site, this didn't happen before the change to the HTML stockwatch, maybe something to look at ...?

hfdbull - 04 Feb 2014 12:26 - 174 of 734

Non Java stockwatch is working well on my PC ( firefox 26 ) and my iphone 4s ios 7 0 4

Thanks from a money.am addict.

IanT(MoneyAM) - 04 Feb 2014 12:40 - 175 of 734

Active and Mo,

We are aware of the multiple logins today, however, that is not related to the new HTML stockwatch and we would like to keep this thread purely for feedback on that. If you have any other issues such as this please add them to the managed bugs thread.

Ian

Harry6 - 04 Feb 2014 12:41 - 176 of 734

Yup, fine thanks. The Java version came up very small and nothing like N would open up, now all OK.

Beatrix29 - 04 Feb 2014 12:59 - 177 of 734

Hi
Seems to be working much faster and quite clear, have been fedup with the Java link for long time,even when updated still did not work.
Thanks.

Activmoto - 04 Feb 2014 13:27 - 178 of 734

I don't know what it is related to, all I know I was in the new HTML stock watch and I got logged out twice.

fahel - 04 Feb 2014 14:43 - 179 of 734

Fine with me

minotaur - 04 Feb 2014 15:21 - 180 of 734

seem to be getting yesterdays trades - ie at time of writing on Java - no trades on NWT and TNG (both on my watchlist) but non java shows 150K NWT traded and 5K TNG - both yesterdays trades

George (ex MoneyAM) - 04 Feb 2014 15:50 - 181 of 734

minotaur: Thanks. It looks like there is probably some logic in the Java one that tells it to ignore T.Price, T.Vol and T.Time data if the Cum.Vol = 0. We've missed this in the html one so thanks for pointing it out.

George (ex MoneyAM) - 04 Feb 2014 15:56 - 182 of 734

minotaur: I've realised that it is actually legitimate data because it accurately represents the details of the last trade. Unfortunately, the assumption is that the T.Time relates to today's date, which is not necessarily the case. I will discuss with others if there is a way we can make that clear without adding the date to the T.Time column (it has never been there before)

Seymour Clearly - 04 Feb 2014 16:18 - 183 of 734

"I love it".

José Mourinho.

itsonlymoney - 04 Feb 2014 16:25 - 184 of 734

Can we add extra room to the trade volume column please? I find it annoying with it jumping about as trades of six digits go through, then back when a smaller trade follows.
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