Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

He was alright in the Austin Powers films, DelBoy, but Hart To Hart was cr@p.


:o)

I said read what you like. It's still a free country. No good trying to put words in my mouth. That's a technique poor debaters use. It actually has a name but I can't remember.
Does the Catholic Church actually have a proscribed list? I never knew that. I went to a Catholic convent school and they never told me that. I'm obviously pig ignorant (just trying to console you, haystacker).

As far as literature, music and the arts are concerned I think you have - just as in most aspects of life and living - to take things in the round, the whole, not dwell merely on what you feel or think are unsavoury aspects. Same with nation states, huh?
However, if something is suffused with prejudice and hatred then it can reach a point when that impinges on its validity or its enjoyment as you realise the artist has a warped mind set. It is a matter of degree, not absolutes.

In TL

I think you have summed yourself adequately in the fourth sentence of the second paragraph of your posting 1652.

I think the thread is as dumb and futile as the present election debates.

Dumber and Dumber.

Tweedledee and Tweedledumb.

So, Farewell then Fred?

It should be farewell thread (fred).

nah,
I squelched fernackapan shortly after the start of this thread.
The rest of you batting your euridite gums (to no avail) seems
to indicate that its all pointless (thank goodness).
Illuminating though.

Hays,

Nah,

Resting, not sleeping.

Haystack - 26 Apr 2010 15:41 - 1629 of 1657
In the Land of the B
There you go again! You are misquoting me. I never said you were Jewish. I said "And how does religion colour your mindset". I never assumed that you were Jewish. As I have said before the problem with Israel has nothing to do with Jews.


Hay-the problem with Israel has EVERYTHING to do with Jews-they live there because safety in numbers. pretty small country though what smaller than Wales.You can drive border to border west to east in 40 minutes. Now if I lived in a country that small surrounded by people who wanted to wipe me from this earth, threatened by a nutter in Iran with nukes, i too would consider security as paramount.

What did the UK do to all aliens in WW2-intern them.Nobody said that was wrong.

What does Israel do to its Arab inhabitants? Gives them the vote to elect Arab MP's, freedom of movement within Israel and most importantly fahel allows them to buy lightbulbs.

And as a nuclear armed Israel grabs (appropriates) more and more Arab land and property, what do you suggest the Arabs do to stop these acts of aggression?

Roll over!

FRED
See below
Sixth Time: Forces Raze Jewish Neighborhood

Politics & Gov't 12:17
MK Ben-Ari accuses Netanyahu and Barak of bullying Jews and ignoring illegal Arab construction, after Maoz Esther is destroyed yet again.


Israel today destroyed an illegal jewish settlement.

Kind of shoots down the argument that Israel only cares for its Jewish citizens.

No doubt fahel, you will come up with something like this is only propaganda.Its not as its todays news.

"And as a nuclear armed Israel grabs (appropriates) more and more Arab land and property, what do you suggest the Arabs do to stop these acts of aggression?"

At least haymaker has a brain with something to say, whatever my reservations about him, but YOU.............LOL

Does anyone see fred moaning about other nuclear armed states? No.
Does Israel threaten to wipe out its neighbours like Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map? No
If Israel is attacked with nuclear weapons they will retaliate so maybe the likes of fred and his mates here should moan about Ahmedinejad - the real threat.


fred says "I think the thread is as dumb and futile as the present election debates.

Dumber and Dumber. "

And who exactly started this Israel hating thread.........LOL

Dumber,

I see Israel's Nuclear Arsenal is only for retaliation.

I seem to remember them threatening other countries and being chased out of Lebanon.

Fred
it's not arab land
its part of Israel

"its part of Israel"

Only according to Israel.

Isn't Lebanon an independent nation? Is it part of Israel?

used to be

a jewel in the Med

but now its just Hezbollahshire

Kayak,

Things like that don't bother some Israelis.

When was Lebanon part of Israel?

I think you are playing irrelevant game. The world is for everyone.
Europe moved towards removing borders. We should do the same for other countries includng Israel and lebenan. There will not be any war or conflict of interest in occupying lands anymore.

That is a utopian view ahoj a world without national borders wont help as faith will still exist. We are humans, we are tribal, we are animals (some more so than others.) Survival of the fittest and all that. Sssshhh! Don't mention evolution.