Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Michael Gove , my favourite .

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/after_we_vote_leave_we_will_act_quickly_to_protect_national_security_and_save_money?utm_campaign=160509_c_news&utm_medium=email&utm_source=voteleave

Lovely man ,looks like Joe 90 .

Priti Patel ,what a beauty ...

Priti Patel interview: It's not 'racist' to worry about immigration

Is Priti a racist ? i think not she is an Asian immigrant ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/15/priti-patel-interview-its-not-racist-to-worry-about-immigration/

Makes me weak at the knees a Brexiter !!!

do i take it that means not called priti with no good reason?

David Cameron thinks Brexit could lead to war... and he’s probably right

By
Michael Deacon
Parliamentary Sketchwriter


9 May 2016 • 6:21pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/09/david-cameron-thinks-brexit-could-lead-to-war-and-hes-probably-r/



Boris Johnson said David Cameron’s hints about post-Brexit war in Europe were ‘wholly bogus’ Credit: WILL OLIVER/EPA


Time to face the cold, hard truth. This isn’t scaremongering. After the EU referendum, there will be war. It will be bitter, bloody, and cause misery for years to come.

I’m not talking about war in Europe, obviously. I’m talking about war in the Tory party. Its pro- and anti-EU factions are now rubbishing each other so openly that it’s impossible to see how they can reunite afterwards.

Today there were big EU speeches by two leading Tories: David Cameron (pro-EU), and Boris Johnson (anti-EU). The Prime Minister made his at the British Museum – speaking just a stone’s throw from the statue of Rameses II, aka Ozymandias. As in, the statue that inspired Shelley’s poem about the inevitable fall of an arrogant empire. Look on the work of the people who book your venues for you, Prime Minister, and despair.

Mr Cameron’s message was that Brexit could lead to war. He didn’t say so explicitly, but he hinted at it so heavily that the voter could hardly have drawn any other inference. “Can we be so sure that peace and stability on our continent are assured beyond any shadow of doubt?” he intoned sternly. “Is that a risk worth taking?”

Mere months ago, Mr Cameron was threatening to endorse a Leave vote unless the EU let him water down benefits for immigrants. At that time, we can only infer, the Prime Minister was prepared to risk war in Europe if he didn’t get permission to cut tax credits for Poles.

Well, either that or he’s now exaggerating desperately. One or the other.

Boris Johnson spoke at the London HQ of Vote Leave. His speech was strikingly un-Boris-like: no jokes, no flippancy, the language almost entirely plain. His sole concession to merriment came when he boasted of being able to sing Ode to Joy in German. “Go on,” coaxed his audience.

You could tell Boris was desperate to resist. He was trying so hard to be the serious statesman. For several seconds he manfully waved away the coaxing. But the force of habit proved too great.

“Freude, schöner Götter…”


As for Mr Cameron’s warning of war, the former Mayor of London was derisive. He called the suggestion “wholly bogus”, and questioned the Prime Minister’s sincerity. It was Nato, not the EU, that maintained peace, he explained; indeed, to argue that the EU maintained peace, as Mr Cameron had, was to “risk undermining” Nato.


ITV’s Robert Peston gently reminded Boris that 18 months earlier he’d published a biography of Churchill. In it, Boris had written that “the European Community, now Union, has helped to deliver a period of peace for its people as long as any since the days of the Antonine emperors”. Why had he changed his mind?

Somehow, Boris managed to disregard this question and launched into a spiel about Churchill’s love of democracy.

Oh, the Tories. They shall fight in the fields and in the streets, they shall fight in the hills…

Goodbye Dave....Boris tells it how it is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1jvbkf87Tg

Poll of polls shows both sides even.

Which means the remain side is fecked!

Support among business for Britain staying in the EU has declined since David Cameron announced an in/out referendum three months ago, but still remains significant. Despite warnings about the economic costs of Brexit from the Treasury, the International Monetary Fund and the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, the lead for the remain side has narrowed from 30 points to 17. - The Guardian

Global banks have turned more cautious towards the UK as a potentially economically disruptive vote on EU membership looms in June, according to a rating agency. Credit Benchmark, an agency that aggregates the internal lending risk assessments of big international banks and uses them to devise ratings, said that lenders had turned slightly more cautious towards the UK earlier this year. - Financial Times

Poll of 112,038 give LEAVE a 6% lead (53-47), however when the pollsters were told it costs £200m per week to belong the LEAVE voters lead shot to 65% - 35%.

The market obviously like it.
2517

the market is indeed very perverse

T I C comment cynic.
2517

War and genocide in Europe if we leave is the new one .

Cameron really needed some better advice on how to go about this in my view ,he's showing himself to be quite stupid .
Laura Kuenssberg ripped him to bits once again .

The Foreign Affairs Select Commitee has recommended LEAVING the EU!!..

Well go, no one's stoping you.

"It's like they were sitting in a room, even when they were not there. There was a spare chair for them - called the German chair. They have had a de facto veto over everything,"



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/angela-merkel-david-cameron-eu-referendum-deal-iain-duncan-smith/

Looking over one's shoulder.

Suggests a guilty conscience!

Latest YouGov / Good Morning Britain EU referendum voting intention:

Remain 42%, Leave 40%, Don't know 13%