Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
In The Land of the B
- 27 Apr 2010 14:27
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"And as a nuclear armed Israel grabs (appropriates) more and more Arab land and property, what do you suggest the Arabs do to stop these acts of aggression?"
At least haymaker has a brain with something to say, whatever my reservations about him, but YOU.............LOL
Does anyone see fred moaning about other nuclear armed states? No.
Does Israel threaten to wipe out its neighbours like Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map? No
If Israel is attacked with nuclear weapons they will retaliate so maybe the likes of fred and his mates here should moan about Ahmedinejad - the real threat.
fred says "I think the thread is as dumb and futile as the present election debates.
Dumber and Dumber. "
And who exactly started this Israel hating thread.........LOL
Fred1new
- 27 Apr 2010 15:25
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Dumber,
I see Israel's Nuclear Arsenal is only for retaliation.
I seem to remember them threatening other countries and being chased out of Lebanon.
Camelot
- 27 Apr 2010 16:15
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Fred
it's not arab land
its part of Israel
Haystack
- 27 Apr 2010 16:23
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"its part of Israel"
Only according to Israel.
Kayak
- 27 Apr 2010 16:59
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Isn't Lebanon an independent nation? Is it part of Israel?
Camelot
- 27 Apr 2010 17:18
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used to be
a jewel in the Med
but now its just Hezbollahshire
Fred1new
- 27 Apr 2010 18:22
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Kayak,
Things like that don't bother some Israelis.
Kayak
- 27 Apr 2010 18:33
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When was Lebanon part of Israel?
ahoj
- 27 Apr 2010 19:20
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I think you are playing irrelevant game. The world is for everyone.
Europe moved towards removing borders. We should do the same for other countries includng Israel and lebenan. There will not be any war or conflict of interest in occupying lands anymore.
rawdm999
- 28 Apr 2010 11:21
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That is a utopian view ahoj a world without national borders wont help as faith will still exist. We are humans, we are tribal, we are animals (some more so than others.) Survival of the fittest and all that. Sssshhh! Don't mention evolution.
ahoj
- 28 Apr 2010 12:16
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That's right rawdm999.
But being human in one form or another can be used to encourage respect to human values, helping each other etc which can end up having a world without borders.
What Goldman Sach did to the community was the worst representation of what a human can do. But what they did was lawful and defendable. They worked for the company to gain the most. We should be happy that they are grilled not upset. I am sure even GS can act like a real human if and only if humanity is encouraged.
In The Land of the B
- 28 Apr 2010 14:06
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Israel has no claims on Lebanon, but you can't blame them from responding when the sovereign state of Lebanon allows constant attacks on Israel from its territory.
Of course I understand the internal problems of Lebanon's government in trying to exert control over its own territory, they have an almost impossible task, but that is why Israel has to defend itself by trying to eliminate the source of the attacks.
Kayak
- 28 Apr 2010 14:30
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Great idea! The UK should invade Pas de Calais to stop illegal immigrants from getting in to the UK.
The UK has no claims on France, but you can't blame them from responding when the sovereign state of France allows constant illegal immigration attempts into the UK from its territory.
Of course I understand the internal problems of France's government in trying to exert control over its own territory, they have an almost impossible task, but that is why the UK has to defend itself by trying to eliminate the source of the illegal immigration.
Gausie
- 28 Apr 2010 14:34
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Um, Kayak, the British have Border Control and police stationed in Calais at France's invitation ....
If your suggestion is that Hamas should follow the Anglo French model and invite israeli troops in to police the rocket attacks then either your idea has merits, or you may want to try a different analogy.
G
Haystack
- 28 Apr 2010 14:35
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we also invade France whenever their workers go on strike and stop the ferries. I am sure we could think of many reasons. Aslo didn't Calais belong to us previously for a couple of hundred years?
Kayak
- 28 Apr 2010 14:47
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As I understand it, Gausie, the UK has border guards stationed in France to check passports. UK police would have no jurisdiction to detain or arrest on French soil as a matter of law. Nor are the UK responsible for the security of the French end of the tunnel, or the land around it. Hence my suggestion that the UK should invade. The UK could call it Pas de Dover, or perhaps the Day Trip Strip?
If you are happy with the compromise that Israel should be allowed to station border guards in the Lebanon to check passports, then I think that that is fair enough.
In The Land of the B
- 28 Apr 2010 14:51
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Oh for goodness' sake ! This just shows the level of thinking here !
DOES FRANCE ALLOW ITS TERRITORY TO BE USED TO LAUNCH ROCKET ATTACKS, SHELLING OR SEND SUICIDE BOMBERS TO THE UK ?
Know the difference between that and strikes and illegal immigrants just wanting a better life?
Gausie
- 28 Apr 2010 14:53
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Kayak
It's a little bigger that you realise. There's over 100 (rising to between 200 and 300 for operations) members of the Kent police force who spend their on-duty time in France. Travel time to and from Kent are counted as part of their hours - I know a few of them.
Kayak
- 28 Apr 2010 15:05
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You are partly right Gausie, but it is a very small area. More in the nature of buildings and an apron straddling a border. What is needed is a whole province.
Kayak
- 28 Apr 2010 15:09
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Of course I am being facetious, ITLB, and I do know the difference between rocket attacks and someone walking down a tunnel. The point I am really making is that what in normal circumstances would be an act of war and of disdain for the local people is described by many using words such as "you can't blame them". Well, you can, actually. It is by no means obvious that Israel should be entitled to act extraterritorially. Maybe it is the only answer, but it isn't beyond questioning on moral and legal grounds and it certainly isn't a situation in which anyone querying it should be accused of anti-Semitism.