Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

War and genocide in Europe if we leave is the new one .

Cameron really needed some better advice on how to go about this in my view ,he's showing himself to be quite stupid .
Laura Kuenssberg ripped him to bits once again .

The Foreign Affairs Select Commitee has recommended LEAVING the EU!!..

Well go, no one's stoping you.

"It's like they were sitting in a room, even when they were not there. There was a spare chair for them - called the German chair. They have had a de facto veto over everything,"



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/angela-merkel-david-cameron-eu-referendum-deal-iain-duncan-smith/

Looking over one's shoulder.

Suggests a guilty conscience!

Latest YouGov / Good Morning Britain EU referendum voting intention:

Remain 42%, Leave 40%, Don't know 13%

i don't believe any of these polls, and nor does the IG indicator
indeed, when it comes to the day, i expect a big swing to "in"
how great a majority that will give "in" i have no idea

I've got to disagree with your views cynic(1674), but of course
only time will tell..

UK bookies still showing a massive odds on that we remain

Ladbrokes remain 1.33
Corals leave 3.5

cynic

agree. I will still be voting out. My mother-in-law at 82 is going to vote for the first time in her life in the referendum. She is voting out. The rest of the family are also voting out although my son who is doing a post grad degree in Global Politics is becoming tempted to vote in after bein determined to vote out.

The bookies got the General Election wrong too !

Yes and Leicester were 5000/1 to win the Premier league.

The LEAVE vote is a lot shorter odds then those..

No its not grannyboy :

Leave is

Will Hill 3.4
Lads 3.25
Corals 3.5
Paddy 3.25


Remain is

Will Hill 1.3
Lads 1.33
Corals 1.3
Paddy 1.33


Other bookies are available on request :-)

I don't go with the polls as they were so wrong on the election so only time will tell ,we may have a shock on the percent swing .

And the pols are only targeted peoples, how many will actually turn out to vote on the day?

I suspect the outers have a more determined group behind them, who will turn out regardless of whats on the tele.

Agreed MaxK.

Spoke to a group of 18 to 23 year olds Thursday after the elections and not one of them voted because in their words either they couldn't be arsed or they didn't understand what voting for any particular candidate would mean for them.

This is the age group that is supposedly strongest in favour of remaining but in reality are the less likely to turn up and vote.

They will all be spaced out at Glastonbury on the 23rd.

And although no conclusions can be drawn (there were only 12 of them) they were a good random cross section besides only 2 of them being girls.

4 are in uni
1 is in school
4 have skilled jobs
3 have unskilled jobs

Some were drinking alcohol some weren't :-)