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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&SiChart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=SEO&Si

for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


greekman - 18 May 2006 21:39 - 16671 of 27111

Tonyrelaxes,

You are correct, as you say SEO are in the closed period.

bosley - 18 May 2006 22:46 - 16672 of 27111

soultraders, i was thinking more along the lines of, sub 10p and it might be worth getting back in again.

tonyrelaxes, what's the reason for so few director buys when they are not in a closed period?

pinnacle - 18 May 2006 23:32 - 16673 of 27111

tonyrelaxes - good point and thanks for the info - but bosley is right - why don't they buy when not in the closed period?

I am looking for the long term - it appears most of the above are trading shares daily to make a living - good luck to you all - I am hoping that over the next two years the gain will be worth the anguish of now - I firmly believe the company has ideas and concepts that are required for todays market - I know from experience that dealing with large companies for contracts takes time and patience and if it comes off while we are young enough to enjoy the gains then it has been worth it.

Tonyrelaxes - 19 May 2006 00:23 - 16674 of 27111

bos/pin

Perhaps with their existing shares and share options they feel fully covered.

If they do not earn huge salaries (and they do not) they might not have the available cash. To take up options incurs a paye/benefits tax liability that generally requires selling half of the take-up to remain cash neutral.

The original question I tried to answer was about present prices. The present low prices only arose (dropped!) in the closed period.

WOODIE - 19 May 2006 06:24 - 16675 of 27111

one of the reasons for the new down turn in the s/price is they are having trouble with several complexities that have delayed matters.the machine has not worked as well as expected .engineers are"fine tune the r&d elements" .also no profitis likely in 2007 but this might slip back until 2008 another negitive is if no profit until 2008 the company will have to go to the market to raise money.

greekman - 19 May 2006 07:23 - 16676 of 27111

Taken from Hamptonroads.com, by Kerry Dougherty

My comments....This is the sort of comment Ross ( of friends fame ) would come out with. My chat up lines are about as good.

From the article.

Did you know that.....Cigarette butts are not only repulsive, they're a potent form of pollution. Environmentalists tell us that filters have a half-life only slightly shorter than plutonium. Even tobacco companies acknowledge that cigarette butts are a nuisance. According to the Ocean Conservancy, cigarette butts were the number one item collected during its 2004 annual International Coastal Clean-up.

tweenie - 19 May 2006 09:16 - 16677 of 27111

cut and pasted for your amusement.


Goodevening - Captain Guide reporting

when its wet and windy out there, when the thunderstorms go haywire, the much
safer place is the SEO flight. Jump outside and you will get wet and will be soaked. Its not the time to be outside. The weather will be calming down soon and we will be the 1st to move out of bay. Patience will be rewarded soon. Have a drink and chill out on board.

We have been at this price long time back and we are there right now.
Nothing has changed. Passengers are boarding at this level. Air Traffic Control has just panicked over the surrounding thunderstorms that doesn't relate to the SEO flight.

Before i log off, someone wants to charter the SEO flight for a fixed period..terms and flight conditions are being negotiated and offcourse the weight of the so called green paper. This itself is enough for the initial SEO flight to fly as a 5bagger like the A380...and it will be soon.

Has he ever been 'on the money?'

greekman - 19 May 2006 09:40 - 16678 of 27111

Tweenie,

I think he has been on something.

garyble - 19 May 2006 09:50 - 16679 of 27111

I believe he's been on the money as far as the actual events within the company, but has saddly been way off with regard to market reaction.

So if he's really in the know, the above IMO alludes to the fact that an interested party is currently in negotiation with SEO for an exclusivity period and of course the value of the contract which will be in the region of 400m.

I took the "5 bagger" as being an sp of 50p, m/cap of ~500m etc, etc.....

I know, we've all been here before!

tweenie - 19 May 2006 10:13 - 16680 of 27111

I guess it's time to put my money where my mouth is .....too tempting not to top up.

TANKER - 19 May 2006 10:18 - 16681 of 27111

our do these muppets keep there jobs there are useless . a bloody monkey could dono worse.

garyble - 19 May 2006 10:21 - 16682 of 27111

From another site:
"The bad news: small AT orders lowering the price followed by large fill orders = almost certain shorting activity

The good news: the shorters will have to stop somewhere between 10p and 1p, and when they do so, a buying frenzy will lift the price fast, maybe even faster then the that of the drop
"

WOODIE - 19 May 2006 10:26 - 16683 of 27111

how many of you will take part in a open offer for more shares if they run out of cash as i said earlier thats what the market is telling you?

greekman - 19 May 2006 10:35 - 16684 of 27111

Woodie,

Where are the indications of any sort of a cash call.

ssanebs - 19 May 2006 10:39 - 16685 of 27111

as far as i recall there was no cash call, maybe senior debt and 5 micro manufacturing plants which would pay up front for the licenses.

WOODIE - 19 May 2006 10:47 - 16686 of 27111

there are no indications of a cash call i did put IF in the above post, but do your homework if no money is coming in due to a delay then how long will the cash last that they have?

dawall - 19 May 2006 11:13 - 16687 of 27111

For those PIs who attended the AGM

How many questions were asked about the delays to Greenseal and the G/S problems? Are you confident the problems are now overcome or do you think that they might still be ongoing and if so are they surmountable in the short term? Is the rate of roll out of further G/S conversions likely to be slower than previously expected or is it a case of all problems are now understood, rectified and then back to orginal rates of conversion?

There have been one or 2 comments on BBs around the commercial viability of Greenseal and together with yesterday's Shares mag article I don't think it is helping the sp.

dawall - 19 May 2006 11:13 - 16688 of 27111

For those PIs who attended the AGM

How many questions were asked about the delays to Greenseal and the G/S problems? Are you confident the problems are now overcome or do you think that they might still be ongoing and if so are they surmountable in the short term? Is the rate of roll out of further G/S conversions likely to be slower than previously expected or is it a case of all problems are now understood, rectified and then back to orginal rates of conversion?

There have been one or 2 comments on BBs around the commercial viability of Greenseal and together with yesterday's Shares mag article I don't think it is helping the sp.

soul traders - 19 May 2006 11:27 - 16689 of 27111

Bosley, I agree (your post 16672), but only "sort of". My contention is, as I believe Peter Lynch says, that you should never try to catch a falling knife. This SP is still showing no signs of bottoming out. Whether that is rational or irrational in relation to SEO's current situation or its potential is another issue altogether.

Buying for 10p may look attractive if you compare with 30p 12 months ago, or with a mooted 1 a share in a few years' time, but if you strip out the speculation and conjecture and follow the chart back to the last time there was any kind of stability, you're back to 5 or 6p. I know that a lot of news has come out since then, but that doesn't seem to be what's driving the SP movement since the peak a year ago.

Throw in a potentially choppy or negative market over the summer months and I think there's still a strong case for further downside emerging.

The danger in a disenchanted market, in the absence of substantial increases in reported revenue, is that this stock will be regarded as cheap when the market cap comes into line with other fundamentals such as net asset value. Shareholders' funds/NAV in the last report were 18.9 million. It would surprise me if large investors started buying solidly at anything over three times this; from which I deduce that a 6p share price is in sight (mkt cap for approx 940 million shares would then be 56.4 million, which some might see as generous for a company whose last reported revenue was less than 1.5 mil).

Short covering may produce some relief as somebody pointed out, but I've heard most short selling is done at the bottom rather than at the top of a down-trend. So there could be more damage to come.

Don't shoot me (yet!). I just think this stock isn't yet cheap enough for the market to start reassessing its view.

soul traders - 19 May 2006 11:39 - 16690 of 27111

Woodie, I agree your point about possible fundraising (#16675). Current assets vs Creditors and left about 1.4 mil over - and they're still burning cash, and have longer-term liabilities to cover.

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