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The really useful silver thread (AG)     

squirrel888 - 12 Jun 2013 10:30

><a href=5 Year HUI Index Chart - AMEX Gold Bugs Index Performance" alt="" /> ><a href=1 Year Gold to Silver Price Ratio Chart - Gold Silver Ratio Graph" alt="" />

gazkaz - 20 Jun 2013 09:44 - 167 of 1034

Saturn6 - 20 Jun 2013 09:46 - 168 of 1034

Gaz - I noticed my earlier chart has gone awol too?/

S.

gazkaz - 20 Jun 2013 09:50 - 169 of 1034

sahara - just having a play around now in post 167 - they really do - seem to want to insist ....
- you go to stockcharts own site :o)

Saturn6 - 20 Jun 2013 09:55 - 170 of 1034

Gaz - I did notice the chart I posted yesterday had morphed into a live chart a short while after, so there may be some data issues/restrictions.

I wonder if there is an option to post an image/screnshot which would bypass the data issue.

S.

Saturn6 - 20 Jun 2013 10:11 - 171 of 1034

I have posted the charts on the other side.

S.

gazkaz - 20 Jun 2013 10:14 - 172 of 1034

Sahara - had a play around - even "had a go :o)"
-at having a read of the java script in "source"
Need to go out - will have a look tonight .

Saturn6 - 20 Jun 2013 10:19 - 173 of 1034

Thanks Gaz - I am tied for time too, but will try again later.

S.

snurkle1 - 20 Jun 2013 10:56 - 174 of 1034

straight through $20

They really are desperate to flush out weak hands.

Sit tight, stick fingers in ears and go 'la la la la la la la la ' till next week as this can't carry on.....

This in favour of going out and get very wet :-)

squirrel888 - 20 Jun 2013 11:03 - 175 of 1034

Snurks - we bounced - you can look now. Someone got cheap pms.

Bloomberg so overboard - still they need to keep the mayor happy.

snurkle1 - 20 Jun 2013 11:38 - 176 of 1034

Cheers Squirrel. I prefer it though when it starts with a 2

the silver:gold ratio is now 64.93

squirrel888 - 20 Jun 2013 12:12 - 177 of 1034

Snurks - we are above 20.

Like you said - desperate. Did they get enough?

Chesty on the other thread says we won't reach another top in Gold until 2019 - is that a lot of upside & every chance of getting close to 1800? Or a lot of volatility?

snurkle1 - 20 Jun 2013 12:21 - 178 of 1034

In all fairness Squirrel, I like chesty but none of his cycle predictions have panned out so far. I prefer Sahara's as tends to be pretty darn close most of the time

skinny - 20 Jun 2013 12:22 - 179 of 1034

You can post a staic version of the chart above (post 167).

GLDchart_zpsfb30901e.png

squirrel888 - 20 Jun 2013 12:28 - 180 of 1034

Skinny - you did it. Saturn/Sahara was struggling with that this morning and Gaz couldn't sus it out. Well done. Can you post how you did that chart?

Snurks agree but Chesty spends hours/days/weeks working out his cycles - he lives in my old home town. But yes I love Sahara/Saturn - doesn't take sides so to speak but I think kind of loves us perma bulls (secretly)......;-)

skinny - 20 Jun 2013 12:42 - 181 of 1034

I've just copied the image to a hosting site and linked to it - as I said above, it is a static image.

snurkle1 - 20 Jun 2013 12:45 - 182 of 1034

Here's a piece taken out of Ed Steer's Daily
I would suggest you sit down before you read this as the numbers are pretty mind blowing.


I got an e-mail from reader 'TB' yesterday about how I report silver usage at the U.S. Mint...and here is what he had to say...

The silver eagle sales number that you report is sort of misleading as you are only counting the bullion coins. You have to do a little extra digging to find all of the silver eagle sales. The mint has sold an additional 568,155 2013-W proof silver eagles, 118,841 2013-W uncirculated silver eagles, 281,310 2013-W two-coin eagle sets (562,620 coins/ounces) and 3,207 silver eagles contained in "2013 Congratulations sets" for a total of 1,252,823 silver eagles that you've failed to report. Just because the coins may be a little shinier or sold separately as collectable's doesn't mean that they aren't silver eagles sold to the public. YTD silver eagle sales totals from the mint should be reported as 25,280,823.

Then, if you count the 2013 5-ounce ATB [American the Beautiful] silver coins -- the mint has sold 24,998 of those coins for an additional 124,990 ounces.

They have also sold 103,484 2013 5-quarter silver proof sets (90% silver) equating to 92,488 ounces of silver.

244,812 2013 14-coin silver proof sets have been sold with each set containing five 90% silver quarters, one 90% half and one 90% dime. These sets total 323,825 ounces of silver.

48,853 2013 5-star general silver dollar proof coins (90%) and 20,756 5-star general uncirculated (90%) coins have been sold, totaling 53,807 ounces of silver.

77,838 2013 girl scouts silver dollar proof coins (90%) and 28,976 girl scouts uncirculated (90%) coins have been sold, totaling 82,567 ounces of silver.

And finally American gold eagles are alloyed with 3% silver by weight. YTD gold coin sales contain approximately 34,700 ounces of silver within these coins.

So, all of these non-silver eagle products totaled together equate to 712,377 ounces.

Total silver sales YTD from the mint should correctly be reported as 25,993,200 ounces.

Cheers...TB

snurkle1 - 20 Jun 2013 12:50 - 183 of 1034

I wonder if this is still the case after today's raid

Bullion Premium, Delivery Near Normal

http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis/Article.jsp?ad=article&ArticleId=26957

gazkaz - 20 Jun 2013 16:39 - 184 of 1034

Snurkle - love the spin - they say "near normal".... then say

However, if you are still looking to acquire physical gold, you can now usually get delivery within ...two weeks after payment and
- pay close to the premiums...... at which physical gold sold..... when the spot prices were a few hundred dollars higher.
(So if the premium was a $100 on lets say previously fictional "higher spot price" of $2000......paying close to that $100 premium on a lower fictional $1,000 price - is "near normal" ?? or $100 premium on an even lower $500 fictional spot price
- not"near normal" in my book :o)

As for bullion-priced silver products, most products are available for delivery within two weeks of payment. The slowest deliveries right now are for the 100-ounce ingots and ........the Canadian silver Maple Leaves.
But, even there, you should be able to get delivery within .....three to four weeks.
(Maples - 3 to 4 weeks - near normal.??...3-4 days is - near normal)

Because demand relative to supply is still so lopsided, for instance, you still see dealers offering to purchase U.S. 90 percent silver coins sometimes at 10 percent above spot price.
(Dealers.... paying.....above spot 10% for ...junk silver - near normal ??
- check the buy back prices quoted on coininvestdirect - no not even close to...normal)


gazkaz - 20 Jun 2013 16:45 - 185 of 1034

Well was it a week/Ten days ago
- pictures of up to 10,000 thousand chinese queing outside shops to get physical metal.

Now - news that Chinese Central - are having to throw lifeline rescues at their banks

- might make the Chinese a bit (yes - even) ...more
- wary of fiat paper
- and perhaps willing to stand in a queue of up to 20,000
- to pick up the firesale gift that the western bankers....have on offer today at smashdown prices

Back up the Rickshaws ....load 'em up.

snurkle1 - 20 Jun 2013 17:52 - 186 of 1034

a couple of Bill Holters

http://blog.milesfranklin.com/nice-chart


http://blog.milesfranklin.com/dont-blame-it-on-us
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