goldfinger
- 26 Feb 2003 00:23
This company is certainly catching the eye of Analysts and Tipsters. I have kindly borrowed this summing up of the company from an online associate and agree with his findings. This really is an undervalued company.
Car Clinic (JCR traded on AIM) – Market Cap 1.32million
Business
Company owns 12 accident centres. Was formerly a division of the Dixon Motor Group.
Opportunity
Profit of circa 700,000 at interim stage – Is a growing business, so every confidence that this performance will be matched in second half, generating 1.4million in cash profits for the group. As others have pointed out this would essentially put company on PE of 1.
Company does have debts, which will require servicing. Currently 2.25million, though repayment has been more than fairly structured and allows significant amounts of cash to be retained by JCR. I assume these monies will be used for bolt on acquisitions and possibly early repayment of debt.
From my various conversations with an existing large shareholder, and to a certain extent recent statements from the company, the debt will be repaid at the rate of 400k per annum. From my calculations, and conversations with various sources, net profits this year should be more than 600,000. Compare this to the measly 1.32million market cap. As I indicated above, this is ludicrously cheap. ( NB This figure takes into account costs of acquisition, associated legal fees, initial banking fees and initial repayments. Remember, the repayments begin in earnest, next year.)
Going forward however, annual profits of more than 1.4million can be expected from the group. I expect the company to beat this comfortably next year and to continue growing at pace. So in effect, I believe Just Care Clinic can deliver annual net profits of more than 1million – Remember this is net profit. (i.e. after repayment of debt)
Directors Buying
And why shouldn’t they? They obviously see the great potential here. The Finance Director, Chris Elton was formerly FD at Dixon Motors, but moved over to take part in the action.
The future
I expect the company will be more focussed on bringing in further contracts with insurance companies. When Just Car Clinic was part of the Dixon Motor Group, whilst profitability was obviously important, as the business wasn’t a core component of the larger group bringing in new contracts was likely seen as a problem rather than a chance to deliver greater profits. I suspect the management team, motivated by significant shareholdings, will be keen to bring in as much ‘big’ insurance business as they can. I expect the company to make an announcement to this regard within the next few months or so. This is based on nothing other than gut, experience and feedback from various sources involved in the industry.
Take a closer Look
Equitygrowth.net wrote a brief piece on JCR in its 7th February newsletter. Shares Magazine has also provided positive coverage of late. I do agree that the figures do appear too good to be true, that is why I encourage investors to do their own research. This stock is undervalued – FACT. I am confident these shares will do well in the coming weeks as more investors recognise the potential, whilst going forward this is excellent material in my opinion. This isn’t hype, this is all fact which can be confirmed with just a little time and effort. Shares are currently 10.5p offered. I cannot emphasise enough - JCR is one to have a look at.
Please DYOR.
goldfinger
- 10 Jun 2004 21:27
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Yes JulieH over on Sharecrazy has pointed out exactly the same thing.
GF.
ThirdEye
- 10 Jun 2004 22:17
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Pleased to hear it. Keeps investors balanced with positive & negative views.
4-5m borrowings & several interest rate rises, makes a difference.
Also will any costs from the recent books overstatement results in arrangement fee charges etc in the current half?
hawick
- 11 Jun 2004 11:06
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Third Eye was negative on this stock @9.75p (now about double) and has made several hundred (I do not exaggerate one iota, yes hundreds) of posts on advfn on JCR, (or more accurately on individuals much of the time, truth to tell) where he posts as Outsider, without EVER owning it. Worth checking out. ;)
Bit like his 'conduct' here on the RAB thread and several GF stock threads.
Judge him for yourself!
If JCR get the anticipated seven figure settlement from Dixons then the market cap of under 2.5 million is going to look very silly. Unused credit line of 2.5 million still available for expansion. Trading profitably.
La la oh Julie, if you love me truly, la la la!
Oops sorry, just singing away there.
ThirdEye
- 11 Jun 2004 16:10
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Not looking as silly as the guy who forecast 1.4m profits (you were the author wern't you?) last year,they came in at little over one fourteenth of that and as YOU mention RAB not looking as silly as the guy who mentioned 1 quick time, in April I think.
Thinking of changing my username to hypestopper.
Any unused credit on top of 4-5m borrowings is a HUGE worry as rates continue to rise. Finance charges will make very interesting reading.
Never hold a low asset value stock with more than 100% gearing when rates are rising fast.
btw there are two guys who go round the internet promoting the same stocks & making very similar claims, (prospective p/e of 1 etc) don't you think it's good that a constructive reasoned case is made out to balance things out, investors then don't get burnt so much don't you think?
hawick
- 11 Jun 2004 17:07
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I do tend to follow good tipsters even if they crop up on more than one site. Sure others do too. You certainly follow me, cropping up in many threads I have been in!! Guess that must be a compliment. ;) As for you being hypestopper, lol, virtually a thread a day much of last year on one company from Third Eye elsewhere, most over hyped company of all time i reckon. Pot, black and kettle come to mind!!
(Now well done to those who avoided your sell advice on Datacash at 42p as well as on JCR at 9.75p(DATA now 101p).) Your advices Third Eye dont concern me as you have had an anti JCR agenda for over a year. (And it was you who brought up your track rexord.)
Interest rates impact will be dwarfed by a seven figure settlement if they get it. Profitably trading and a market cap of 2.4 million is JCR. Not a lot of businesses can boast that record.
A stock more moneyam readers would do well to look closely at.
ThirdEye
- 11 Jun 2004 17:50
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Blimey Datacash is now to do the with JCR debate??
I regard your seven figure settlement for JCR as likely as the profit forecast at the beginning of this thread of 1.4m.
If I had followed you when this was 40p & you were saying 55p by Xmas, I doubt I would be here posting now, probably be selling the big issue, as it is I do my own research & 50,000 up on that share that you & g/f have made about 700 negative posts between you in one thread on another board about.....not so innocent yourself eh?
As for anti anything, remember I warned this would make no where near 1m yet alone 1.4m.....who was right & who was wrong?
Thank goodness I may have stopped a few buying after teamwork ramping by certain people on various internet bulletin boards (check the graph pattern) & indeed got thanked for it by many.
Isn't funny those who cast stones at others need to divert from the facts, check the profits of JCR who forecast 1.4m who suggested below 300,000...Who got it right & who overstated by 1m?
I have called it right you have overstated profits by miles, why should anyone believe your seven figure settlement fee?
Once you start making sober statements & readers may start to take notice of your posts.
goldfinger
- 12 Jun 2004 10:22
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Think your forgetting one thing thirdeye, the dodgy accountant. We can only base forecasts on what we have been presented with and if figures historicaly have been tampered with then yes future forecasts will be wrong.
I look forward to the legal settlement, if it goes JCRs way, the share should respond positively.
cheers GF.
ThirdEye
- 12 Jun 2004 11:09
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Without the dodgy accountant, taking into account interims, the full year profits would be no where near 1.4m.
I think some posters seem to 'over egg the pudding' perhaps hoping others will be drawn in without doing their proper research? I don't know, but I keep seeing fancy forecasts, which in my opinion are very misleading & unbalanced. So good job this board supports free speech to help balance things out :-)
jfletendre
- 12 Jun 2004 12:39
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Yes, we're all for free speech to give a balanced view - there are SO many threads that need this - but Third Eye, you only ever appear on threads that have GF on them - strange I think - does it mean that all the other threads are perfectly balanced and not in need of your views?
hawick
- 12 Jun 2004 12:44
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The current state of JCR imho means the company deserves a much higher rating and that is what investors should focus on than the current market cap under 2.5 million. Profitable, unused credit, expanding the number of care centres, healthy turnover and very cash generative.
Not many companies with such a low market cap can boast all that. Worth looking at as an investment imho.
All boards i know of promote free speech, but a few ban posters who have bitter personal campaigns or hidden agendas, thankfully, which is how it should be.
Pugugly
- 12 Jun 2004 13:11
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SO HOW MANY OF THESE OPTIOSN ARE THERE?
LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THEM BUT WITHOUT THE FACTS:-
HOW MANY
EXERCISE WINDOW
LIMITATIONS etc
No way to make a fair valuation of the Company - All else being equal option dilution plus Pension Liabilities (if any) will ahve a significant effect on share price.
Anyone got the facts?
If not suggests someone phones Barry Whittles, Chief Executive 07850 268369 and then posts theanswers.
ThirdEye
- 12 Jun 2004 13:36
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jfletendre I will post on the selected threads that I think personally have too much hype on them, correct about JCR, correct about RAB so far.
You against negative views?
Also chaeck Ofex traded Britannia on ADVFN about 700 posts on this little Ofex stock from hawick & G/f as a team, hey but I don't complain, my stocks will stand up to negative posts as Britannia has, in fact up 355% since I bought.
Back to JCR which without any further diversions I hope we can talk about Puggugly I think it's 800,000 @ 1p from memory, if you check the RNS news it is in one of the RNS articles, when management do those sort of things well below the current price at the time, I don't trust them, very selfish & not fair to investors, so far I have been correct to have my doubts.
hawick
- 12 Jun 2004 13:58
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The shares were about 4p at the acquisition and puggers this is what you want:
In addition, Barry Whittles has today been granted options over 609,669 Ordinary
Shares, and Chris Elton has today been granted options over 203,223 Ordinary
Shares, in each case at an exercise price of 1p per share.
On top of the 12.525 million shares that would make c13,339,000. Given that they bought far more shares subsequently at 8p and 12p I hardly think it damages their credibility and they are running the business superbly. JCR up 100% sincew i first bought when Third Eye started his campaign, so how that makes him right I leave for you to work out, lol!!!
As I believe he was "in the business" (car mechanic?) i will ask him if he ever worked for Dixon's motors? perhaps that would help to explain a lot!!
The eps was unaffected at the results. The market cap at 20p would be 2.68 million from 2.5 million. These are the only options and not going to make a big difference. Still great value ;)
ThirdEye
- 12 Jun 2004 14:12
- 182 of 245
Oh dear now even suggestions I worked for Dixons, boy you guys are desperate.
We are losing focus again I see, the point is these had suggested profits of 1.4m.
No one wanted to talk about the 5m borrowing and their market cap being much less.
In fact Nav value of 5m was claimed by hawick.
I'm just here to point out the truth, ie, they never had 5m NAV etc.
Also pointing out issuing 800,000+ options at 1p that has a current share price 400 or 500% above that is BAD FORM for investors & gives you an insight as to how the directors may be rewarded in the future...a very relevant point I think.
& no never worked for Dixons, I was a director of an Independent HGV garage, Car garage & Bodyshop.
Pugugly
- 12 Jun 2004 16:00
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Thanks ThirdEye and hawick:- I think you both have made very fair points -
Potential dilution not as bad as I feared but tend to agree about the 1p - and also the level of debt with rising interest rates but as hawick points out the business appears to be being run well - apart from an accountant fiddling the books - BUT (imo) this should have been spotted earlier from cash flow discrepencies - (perhaps that was how he was found)and reflects poorly on management BUT it was found out. If price reduction forthcoming (say 1 million as suggested) then a sharp boost to assets and share price) but nothing is, from my experience, sure in Law apart from the COSTS.
Will have to do some more research.
hawick
- 12 Jun 2004 16:16
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Puggers, the fraudster was in the days before the Bikenet acquisition of the company therefore it'd be wrong to blame current management I think. And once it was located the company (imho) did all the right things and the report is pretty plain in pointing the finger. I would not be surprised to see an out of court settlement - hope so!
Good luck whatever you decide.
ThirdEye
- 12 Jun 2004 16:39
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Fair constructive & sensible comment pugugly.
& one thing with their balance sheet JCR can't afford is costs.
ThirdEye
- 14 Jun 2004 16:21
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Well someone voted with their feet & bailed out at a price well below the bid.
Moves and acts like an Ofex stock this one, often moves up or down on 1 sale or purchase.
hawick
- 14 Jun 2004 17:28
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Moves and acts like an Ofex stock this one.
Is that a criticism, given you are an ofex fanatic, Third Eye?
ThirdEye
- 15 Jun 2004 08:59
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Just an observation hawick, down 0.75p on 3000 traded today, unless any larger delayed trades get reported which is possible.